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02-20-2005, 07:08 AM
Post subject: setting a sweetheart of a trap
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Fnord
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Stop buying in for the default at those tables. You should develop a strong deep-stack game and consider that your loose pre-flop play becomes less of an issue when the money gets really deep.
If you can't afford 100xBB, you shouldn't be playing. Nor should you treat cash games like an SnG.
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Fnord
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It's all about money baby!
The default buy-in at the PS NL tables is horrible and probably there to slow down the rate at which the fish lose money.
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Fnord
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Why wait to win a hand to get leverage on most of the table? If you hit on one of your garbage $8 raises you want as much money as possible to take down their stack.
Look at it this way, are you in better shape with a $80 or $200 stack that game? Why would you give up value by buying in short?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I dunno I just feel 'safer' starting out with a smaller stack....I lost count how many times someone smoked my entire stack when I sat down with the max
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If you need to buy-in short to feel safe, the stakes are either too high for your roll and/or you're playing your comfortable shallow money (I'm all-in and I bet you can't call) game. In cash games you're not on a clock like you are in tournies, so you can wait a bit more and want the stack to maximize the value you get out of your hands.
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Mony B
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Hey rippy, i was wondering if you always play as a smart maniac or do you look for group hands as well? Obviously the whole gus hanson thing is working for you and turning 70$ into 650 is great, and i shouldnt be commenting on this post since i havent watched you play for that long, but when do you cross the line between playing smart trying to get a maniac/fish attitude, and just being an expensive fish? Now please dont get me wrong, i am in no way calling you a fish, or even considering you to be close to one. I was just wondering if you where a hater of strong starting hands. What kinds of swings do you usually go through playing ring games? I know you are mainly tourneys, but im trying to get a better understanding of how you think when you sit at the table. How many times do you raise in position and hit nothing to fire out a huge bet on the flop and get called?
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Fnord
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In short:
1) Rippy swings like a monkey. Many days it's bust after bust.
2) Starting hands are over-rated in big bet games.
3) Rippy is a very difficult to play against post-flop, particularly if you're tiliting, don't have a read or value money.
4) Rippy has putting people on tilt down to a science (see above point.)
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Fnord
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Hold'em in a nutshell:
Hitting a flop is hard
Getting AA/KK/QQ/JJ/TT so you don't have to hit a flop is harder.
If you give up every time you miss, you're giving up too much.
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JeffreyGB
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I find your buyin at that amount (and at your stakes) refreshing, Rippy.
I'm a strange breed of player I guess - or just a crappy one slowly improving - but I'm finding it quite profitable (relative to my bankroll) to buy-in around 1/4 of the max a level above where I could afford buying in at the max. My BR is currently just over $300, so by all accounts I should be playing NL$25 (.10/.25). I recently moved up from that level to NL$50 (.25/.50) where I buy-in with $12.50. Thus I'm way below the recommended max of 15xBR for buy-in, and I feel I can play quite comfortably. Sure, people may try to push me around, but I can push back a bit and do tend to get decent table respect. I've definitely seen an increase in profit here over the NL$25 tables. Rarely do I leave my table without having doubled my stack (though in some cases I do lose it first...), and not infrequently do I find myself tripled or more before I leave (again, may have lost a buy-in or two in the process).
Other than the "you can make more because you have a bigger stack" argument (I'd counter that having to play at lower stakes to start with that stack cuts the profits down at least enough to compensate), is there a reason I shouldn't do this?
- Jeffrey
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TheDoc
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What are your thoughts on playing suited connectors in a raised pot (not by you). Me personally i will play them every time if the pot isnt raised more then 3x bb, and if there are a lot of callers i might play any way and hope for a kind flop, if not ill get out.
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TheDoc
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this was for you rippy #1630264118: thedoctuh wins $136 from the main pot with a full house, Tens full of sevens. 107 sooted took out KK
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TheDoc
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A couple hands later vs the same guy.
#1630268857: thedoctuh wins $258.2 from the main pot with a straight, seven to jack.
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TheDoc
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One of the best things about this strat is 4 things usually happen.
1) you miss bet at it and get action back and shut down
2) they fold and you pick up a nice pot
3) you strike gold and they may or may not pay you off (usually they would if they called your raise and you hit with those crappy cards)
4) you occasionally fish and either win big or lose big.
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TheDoc
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#1630280161: thedoctuh wins $131.1 from the main pot with a full house, Eights full of aces.
diff table hit my set and 2 guys paid me off.
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TheDoc
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#1630285663: thedoctuh wins $72 from the main pot with three of a kind, jacks.
jesus this is all within 30 minutes
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TheDoc
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Eekkkk just got sucked out 3 consecutive times and lost all those winnings. Double edged sword no one believes you ever have anything and you will get sucked out on ALOT.
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Corey
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man I wish I could play like a maniac. Only problem is in ring games if I lose a big pot thats the bankroll....
ripp you need chat back so when you transfer 2 cents you can reply to them once they ask you why you transfered it. rofl....
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