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Robert

09-06-2005, 09:26 PM Post subject: Set over set

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I know theres a saying that if you are beat by an overset, it just aint your day. Anyway, on the turn the only hand I really could but opp on was a set of fours - nothing else explained the size of the reraises. I know that sometimes this is a fish with just twopair or toppair, but in this situation I think I'm against an overset most of the time making my play -EV.

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***** Hand History for Game 2665375703 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 06, 17:17:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 54863 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: bluffboy200 ( $24.90 )
Seat 2: visagold ( $21.55 )
Seat 3: otemachi ( $31.75 )
Seat 4: dreadbwoy72 ( $20.95 )
Seat 5: varms1 ( $37.30 )
Seat 8: vapotan ( $76.65 )
Seat 9: JASONALLOYD ( $33.25 )
Seat 10: ji99lypuff ( $26.90 )
Seat 7: Marlan ( $24.80 )
otemachi posts small blind [$0.10].
dreadbwoy72 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bluffboy200 [ 3c 3h ]
varms1 folds.
Marlan calls [$0.25].
vapotan folds.
JASONALLOYD folds.
ji99lypuff folds.
bluffboy200 calls [$0.25].
visagold calls [$0.25].
otemachi calls [$0.15].
dreadbwoy72 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 3s, 4c ]
otemachi checks.
dreadbwoy72 checks.
Marlan checks.
>You have options at Table 55265 (No DP) Table!.
bluffboy200 bets [$0.50].
>You have options at Table 37571 Table!.
visagold folds.
otemachi folds.
dreadbwoy72 folds.
Marlan calls [$0.50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
Marlan checks.
bluffboy200 bets [$0.90].
Marlan raises [$3].
bluffboy200 raises [$9.10].
>You have options at Table 37571 Table!.
Marlan is all-In [$21.05]
bluffboy200 calls [$14.05].
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
bluffboy200 shows [ 3c, 3h ] three of a kind, threes.
Marlan shows [ 4s, 4h ] three of a kind, fours.
Marlan wins $47.85 from the main pot with three of a kind, fours.

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lowBoy

09-06-2005, 09:35 PM

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Without reads at 25NL, and considering the size of it, I think you have to call his AI... too many people go ape with weird betting when they just made two pair or a flush draw w/ second pair.

Then again, if you've got a *really* good read on him as a tight solid player, I'd consider laying it down.

DaNutsInYoEye

09-06-2005, 10:15 PM

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I actually laid down a set of 3's last night against a very solid player that I have played with on many occassions. After he called a large bet on a flop of 3s,7s,9d I should have shut down completely, but like a moron I led out when Qc came on the board and was check-raised. I folded because I knew that he either had a set of 7's or a set of 9's. He was nice enough to show me his pocket 7's. I have never seen him get out of line and chase a draw when he wasn't getting odds and he also knows me well enough that wouldn't have called me to begin with only 2 pair. I actually gave him more money than I should have, but oh well.

I'm not trying to brag because I can't remember a single time prior where I have laid down a set with no flush/straight possibility on the board. Like IowBoy said, against an unknown opponent I'd pay them off every time, especially at the lower limits. It just happens, so don't feel bad about it. You'll find yourself on both sides of this situation. You just have to hope the pots you lose are smaller than the ones you win.

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