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Old 11-23-2006, 08:43 PM     Post subject: Set line vs FTRer. #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($123.75)
UTG+1 ($205.45)
MP1 ($61.50)
MP2 ($92.05)
MP3 ($37.50)
CO ($104.70)
Button ($13.75)
Margin Of Error ($93.10)
BB ($108.15)

Preflop: Margin Of Error is SB with 3, 3.
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $5, 3 folds, Margin Of Error calls $4.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($16) 8, 3, Q (3 players)
Margin Of Error checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets $8, Margin Of Error raises to $20, UTG folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: $44



Villian is kingnat. Hes 13/7 over like 65 hands when this occured.
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Old 11-24-2006, 01:50 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 this is probably the worst line possible

he cant possibly have a draw here so you dont need to protect your hand by check-raising...youre just instilling the most fear possible with the smallest amount of his money going in

lead or check-call
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Old 11-24-2006, 05:25 AM #3 (permalink)  
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this is probably the worst line possible

he cant possibly have a draw here so you dont need to protect your hand by check-raising...youre just instilling the most fear possible with the smallest amount of his money going in

lead or check-call

Say you lead the flop and the board pairs on the turn, do you slow down or lead out again? And if you lead out, whats your bet size?
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Old 11-24-2006, 01:24 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 pokerstars+ line= -ev.
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Old 11-24-2006, 01:36 PM #5 (permalink)  
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bet the flop, and call the raise, then bet the turn and get your stack in
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pokerstars+ line= -ev.
check-mini raise flop, check/call turn and pot river oop. Think we'll have him confused?
That might get us paid...
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12 on the flop and stack him!
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Old 11-24-2006, 04:39 PM #8 (permalink)  
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As soon as I check raised him I knew I played it badly cause he sat there thinking for awhile and then said "set me marg?" before folding lol.
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:55 PM #9 (permalink)  
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12 on the flop and stack him!
agreed, but you can't a have a set most of the time when you do this or else it becomes too transparent (assumes your opponents have learned hand reading 101).
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 vs a thinking player, check/call 1/2 pot bet the turn is kinda a neato line, because it looks like you have TT or something, and it balances with the times when you have a marginal hand vs kingnat
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12 on the flop and stack him!
agreed, but you can't a have a set most of the time when you do this or else it becomes too transparent (assumes your opponents have learned hand reading 101).


Wouldnt you play AQ/KQ the same way?
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12 on the flop and stack him!
agreed, but you can't a have a set most of the time when you do this or else it becomes too transparent (assumes your opponents have learned hand reading 101).


Wouldnt you play AQ/KQ the same way?
meh, to be honest, I'm not sure how important that is. Far too many players check to the preflop raiser regardless of what they have here. That gives the pfr'er a big advantage on the flop. I think leading a big Q here is usually good if that means anything.
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make good players think you are bluffing, or make them think their hand is better than yours long enough that its too late for them to fold
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