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TalentedTom
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07-16-2005, 03:05 PM
Post subject: Semi Bluffing in low level NL
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 289
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I played one hand that kinda pissed me off, I was wondering should I just completley stop doing this?
PokerStars Game #2115451452: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/07/16 - 10:47:01 (ET)
Table 'Doris' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: NO para ($7.70 in chips)
Seat 2: yogeesun ($31 in chips)
Seat 3: NewMexicoKid ($20.25 in chips)
Seat 4: IanBarns ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Pulp_X ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: rise2 ($28.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Unrelenting ($32.35 in chips)
Seat 9: b16sedan ($10 in chips)
Unrelenting: posts small blind $0.10
Unrelenting said, "gosh"
Marccus85 joins the table at seat #8
b16sedan: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS *** [ Jh, 8h ]
Unrelenting said, "i thought my jack high was good"
NO para: calls $0.25
yogeesun: calls $0.25
NewMexicoKid: folds
IanBarns: folds
Pulp_X: folds
rise2: calls $0.25
Unrelenting: calls $0.15
b16sedan: checks
*** FLOP *** [Js 3h 9h]
Unrelenting: bets $0.75
b16sedan: folds
NO para: calls $0.75
yogeesun: folds
rise2: raises $2.25 to $3
Unrelenting: calls $2.25
NO para: folds
*** TURN *** [Js 3h 9h] [8d]
Unrelenting: bets $4
rise2: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [Js 3h 9h 8d] [9c]
Unrelenting: bets $10
rise2 said, "I am good at paying off"
rise2: calls $10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Unrelenting: shows [Jh 8h] (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
rise2: shows [Jd Qh] (two pair, Jacks and Nines - Queen kicker)
rise2 collected $34.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $36 | Rake $1.75
Board [Js 3h 9h 8d 9c]
Seat 1: NO para folded on the Flop
Seat 2: yogeesun folded on the Flop
Seat 3: NewMexicoKid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: IanBarns folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Pulp_X folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: rise2 (button) showed [Jd Qh] and won ($34.25) with two pair, Jacks and Nines
Seat 7: Unrelenting (small blind) showed [Jh 8h] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Nines
Seat 9: b16sedan (big blind) folded on the Flop
Are plays like this rescricted to only high level games, or should I continue to try them?
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Tom.S
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EricE
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 894
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We can't see your hole cards.
I stopped semi bluffing because too many people will call me down with anything to beat me with Q high.
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Stakes: Playing $0.10/$0.25 NL
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The Loser's Lounge
Posts: 2,322
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You have to stop doing this at low limits unless you know the player is skilled. Too many guys that don't respect shit down there. The only way you will bluff them out (most of the time) is if they have NOTHING. I found too many times I couldn't scare someone off a low pair even. When I eventually gave up on this and started playing cards I did a lot better at these levels.
The sad thing is, I thought it would be safe at 100NL where I eventually clawed my way up to. It's better but not totally right. So I wonder if it's ever totally safe to try these moves unless you understand beforehand whether or not the opponent will understand what you're representing.
But anyway, I guess the point is don't give them too much credit down there.
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lowBoy
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Flush
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 513
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I'd check the river, call a modest raise.
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