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Fnord
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10-30-2007, 05:59 PM
Post subject: Routine live straddled hand
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1/2 game with the usual tourists. I'm around $250 deep.
I straddle UTG. I started this a couple orbits ago to get the game juiced a bit and have a couple other people doing it as well.
Three or so limpers, I have :As: :Js: and raise to $15 to juice the pot some more. 4 to the frop, around $60 in the pot.
:Ks: :Qh: 
I bet $40 and get called by a loose/passive player who plays pretty tight and straight forward post-flop. He's on a sick run of cards and has over $400.
$140 in the pot, Turn is a brick.
I check, he bets $30 and I insta-call.
River is an air-ball.
I puke, then check/fold.
How did I do?
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EricE
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Played perfectly.
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bigspenda73
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c/bomb turn
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Miffed22001
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does he fold to a c/r awww in on turn?
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
does he fold to a c/r awww in on turn?
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He gave us a gift with his stupid bet size, are we better off swinging for fences?
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spoonitnow
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Meh I like just a call on the turn. Dumb fish isn't folding TP here I don't think.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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bigspenda73
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such a week turn bet, a big-hand would bet bigger to protect.
You've repped a monster, people are nits live, I take advantage and shove.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
such a week turn bet, a big-hand would bet bigger to protect.
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He's been seen making weak bets with monster hands. He's already hit Quads twice for the high hand jackpot and shown Aces twice and Queens three times. If he knew how the bet worth a damn and learn not to show uncalled hands to pay-off monkeys, he'd have at least another $100-$200 behind. The short of it is, that he might be weak here, but his weak bet doesn't give any information away. Also, I think he checks behind draws quite often in this spot.
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
such a week turn bet, a big-hand would bet bigger to protect.
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He's been seen making weak bets with monster hands. He's already hit Quads twice for the high hand jackpot and shown Aces twice and Queens three times. If he knew how the bet worth a damn and learn not to show uncalled hands to pay-off monkeys, he'd have at least another $100-$200 behind. The short of it is, that he might be weak here, but his weak bet doesn't give any information away. Also, I think he checks behind draws quite often in this spot. |
Yeah this is kind of important info =P
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Fnord
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Results: I fold to a $30 river bet (lol), he shows his set of sixes.
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bigslikk
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
people are nits live.
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I disagree. Most of the live ones that I've played on live tables are loose-er than hell donks. Okay, some may play meekly, others outrageously, but two features hold true for 90% of them:
1. They love seeing flops
2. They tend to make crying calls.
Basically, they have a tough time folding with any semblance of a hand.
Villain's $30 bet to me signifies at least top pair. I've played against postflop nits like the one described- the key is his $40 call on the flop. He's not calling without a made hand, or possibly a high flush draw. When he bets $30 behind you on the turn, flush draw is out. I play the hand the same way.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by bigslikk
1. They love seeing flops
2. They tend to make crying calls.
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QFT!
That said, you can make a killing by raising their weak hands, then c-betting when they miss. A loose raise every 2-3 orbits is free money, more often than that and you will get the maniac treatment (which you may or may not want.)
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bigspenda73
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lolz reads a little late much?
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Renton
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crai flop?
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