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Old 04-25-2007, 11:35 PM     Post subject: River value bet? TPTK vs. passive halfstack #1 (permalink)  
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I have a lot of mined hands on villain, but no notes He has really weird stats for a 400NL regular 23/4.5/1.5 over a ton of hands.

What does this look like from such a passive player? Should I value bet here?

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SB ($636)
BB ($237.80)
UTG ($951.40)
UTG+1 ($500)
MP1 ($400)
MP2 ($148)
Hero ($428)
CO ($189.50)
Button ($342.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $18, 3 folds, BB calls $14, UTG+1 calls $14.

Flop: ($56) 6, T, J (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $40, BB calls $40, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($136) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($136) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero...
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:44 AM #2 (permalink)  
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kj,qj,kq,89

i bet 80-90
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:03 AM #3 (permalink)  
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i would value bet it also
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Old 04-26-2007, 08:10 PM #4 (permalink)  
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VB 1/2 to 2/3 pot seems fine here. Surely trip Ts lead out for fear of missing value.....
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 getting c/r'ed on the river sucks...

With an AF of 1.5, he might be holding Q-Q+.

idk, checking would actually be a very good play if his river AF was higher than his overall 1.5AF would suggest.

I guess i actually don't mind a check, considering his very passive stats.

I wonder if due to the very high aggression at higher limits like this, if playing opposite (passively) would actually have benefits since i bet he catches a ton of bluffs.
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Old 04-27-2007, 01:13 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 what did he buy in with?
how did he get his stack/why isnt he full?

I bet.
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Old 04-27-2007, 05:51 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Don't know what he bought in with or have any read. Haven't been at the table very long.

I bet $60 and he called with KK Nice call Vi-Zero.

I didn't know players like this existed at 400nl.
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Don't know what he bought in with or have any read. Haven't been at the table very long.

I bet $60 and he called with KK Nice call Vi-Zero.

I didn't know players like this existed at 400nl.
yeah, they have negative winrates and have mo idea how to get value.
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