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Old 07-23-2007, 03:08 AM     Post subject: River the second nuts but probably the nuts. How to extract? #1 (permalink)  
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Pretty deep. Villain and I have been taking some shots at each other but nothing exciting has happened really. He's solid, and I think i recognize the SN so probably a 2p2 type.

We're deep, not quite 300bb.

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Seat 1: Gulp ($29.45)
Seat 2: bballch28 ($18.75)
Seat 3: chwria ($8.50)
Seat 4: Irrational ($19.25)
Seat 5: bgtm236 ($34.20)
Seat 6: adcat ($151.25)
Seat 7: euphologi ($130)
Seat 8: coolwater711 ($43)
Seat 9: crazybettor ($44.65)
Gulp posts the small blind of $0.25
bballch28 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to euphologi [ ]
chwria folds
Irrational folds
bgtm236 folds
adcat calls $0.50
euphologi raises to $2.50
coolwater711 folds
crazybettor folds
Gulp folds
bballch28 folds
adcat has 15 seconds left to act
adcat calls $2
*** FLOP *** [ :Ad: ]
adcat checks
euphologi bets $5
adcat calls $5
*** TURN *** [ :Ad: ] [:Tc:]
adcat checks
euphologi checks
*** RIVER *** [ :Ad: :Tc:] []
adcat bets $15.75 villain bets pot
euphologi ... AAAAAAHHHHHH
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Old 07-23-2007, 04:05 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 First of all you have the 3rd nuts but yes, you're right, you have the practical 1st nuts other than QdJd. Ontop of this your hand is very nicely hidden.

I minraise (seems bad) or make close to a minraise here. There are plenty of hands that will call here and plenty of hands besides straight that could conceivably stack off here as well (sets, AT, etc...).
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Yeah, I think QJ calls you on the flop too.

Cry and call. No need to play a big pot in this spot against this opponent.
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Third nuts. I dont see him limping QJ/J7. In fact I think his river bet is pure air about 85% of the time.
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Third nuts. I dont see him limping QJ/J7. In fact I think his river bet is pure air about 85% of the time.
Air isn't giving you any more action that you'll want.
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Third nuts. I dont see him limping QJ/J7. In fact I think his river bet is pure air about 85% of the time.
Air isn't giving you any more action that you'll want.
Right. Cry calling here sucks but it's correct.

Shoving is interesting for metagame, though.
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Third nuts. I dont see him limping QJ/J7. In fact I think his river bet is pure air about 85% of the time.
Air isn't giving you any more action that you'll want.
Right. Cry calling here sucks but it's correct.

Shoving is interesting for metagame, though.
shoving would be just a slight overbet.
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:14 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 Shoving is slight overbet? Not even close. 270bb deep, no preflop 3 bet, not postflop raises; no way shoving is a slight overbet.

This is not a raise, but also not a crying call. Your line is often a bluff inducer. Sometimes what you beat will call a raise. Call and don't complain.

I've made calls like this on less coordinated boards with middle pair and have been right.
 
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He was being sarcastic. Read his signature ;p
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