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Old 09-03-2004, 11:24 AM     Post subject: The river did me dirty #1 (permalink)  
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There was 4 of us left in a SNG when the turn gave me a flush Ace high.

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PokerStars Game #662707435: Tournament #2546905, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2004/09/02 - 23:12:00 (ET) Table '2546905 1' Seat #2 is the button Seat 2: Phen (5865 in chips)
Seat 4: chipsbemine (1675 in chips)
Seat 8: NikkiTenny (2105 in chips)
Seat 9: jepzilla (3855 in chips)
chipsbemine: posts small blind 100
NikkiTenny: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NikkiTenny [6h Ah]
jepzilla: folds
Phen: folds
chipsbemine: raises 200 to 400
NikkiTenny: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [9h Qh Qd]
chipsbemine: checks
NikkiTenny: bets 600
chipsbemine: calls 600
*** TURN *** [9h Qh Qd] [Th]
chipsbemine: checks
NikkiTenny: bets 675
chipsbemine: calls 675 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [9h Qh Qd Th] [Qc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chipsbemine: shows [Qs 7c] (four of a kind, Queens)
NikkiTenny: shows [6h Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
jepzilla said, "wow"
chipsbemine collected 3350 from pot
chipsbemine said, "omg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3350 | Rake 0
Board [9h Qh Qd Th Qc]
Seat 2: Phen (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: chipsbemine (small blind) showed [Qs 7c] and won (3350) with four of a kind, Queens Seat 8: NikkiTenny (big blind) showed [6h Ah] and lost with a flush, Ace high Seat 9: jepzilla folded before Flop (didn't bet)
4 Queens on the river, I was not happy. I regrouped and took him out later
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DrNoChance
Old 09-03-2004, 01:40 PM #2 (permalink)  
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This is just my opinion, but I don't like your flop call for that price. Unless I'm mistaken he's making a near pot sized bet here. Either believe that he has the queen and fold, or don't believe it and push all-in on a semi-bluff. If you push and he does have the queen (which he did) at least you are seeing all 5 cards for your flush draw. Whether you push or fold here depends on your opponent's table image.....but I don't like just calling here. You're chasing.
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Old 09-03-2004, 01:49 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by DrNoChance
.... I don't like your flop call for that price.....
Tenny was doing the betting. However, when the board is paired, flush draws and straight draws suck. You have 9 outs to hit the flush, or 8 to the open ender; at the river, he has 9 outs to a boat and one to hit quads. This is why trips is one of my favorite hands to play, everyone over-rates their draws.
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Old 09-03-2004, 01:50 PM #4 (permalink)  
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When he was SB and I was BB and the other two players had folded he raised everytime to take my blind. I had to fold the other times this time with the ace six suited I called it, thinking he was just trying to steal again. I made the bet after the other 2 hearts fell on the flop thinking he had nothing. When he called, I had him on Queens, the turn brought me my ace high flush and figured I had him, which I did until the river. I really didn't think I was chasing, maybe my bet after the flop was too big ?
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Old 09-03-2004, 01:52 PM #5 (permalink)  
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.... I don't like your flop call for that price.....
Tenny was doing the betting. However, when the board is paired, flush draws and straight draws suck. You have 9 outs to hit the flush, or 8 to the open ender; at the river, he has 9 outs to a boat and one to hit quads. This is why trips is one of my favorite hands to play, everyone over-rates their draws.
Whoops, he was betting there and not calling. My mistake. No more trying to read hand histories while at work...
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