Poker Forum

Over 1,247,000 Posts!

REGISTER
Subscribe to FTR web feed
Already Registered?      Username:    Password:   Remember      Forgot Password

Poker Forum

  > 

Full Ring NL Hold'em

  > 

River bet amounts OK here?

  
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
r8ed
Old 12-08-2005, 05:12 AM     Post subject: River bet amounts OK here? #1 (permalink)  
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,524
r8ed
sukerpuncher is loose preflop. I haven't been here long enough to see much postflop.

Seat 4: sukerpuncher ( $75.68)
Seat 9: jandje ( $26.40)
jandje posts small blind (0.10)
phattypati03 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jandje [ Ac, Qh ]
Shadey2541 folds.
j_wat folds.
sukerpuncher calls (0.25)
racer777111 calls (0.25)
board_bum folds.
Mace_Du folds.
KCTheDuke calls (0.25)
jandje raises (1.40) to 1.50
phattypati03 folds.
sukerpuncher calls (1.25)
racer777111 folds.
KCTheDuke folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qd, 8s, 2s ]
jandje bets (3)
sukerpuncher calls (3)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7c ]
KCTheDuke: lol
jandje bets (5)
sukerpuncher: ithink im beat r
sukerpuncher calls (5)
** Dealing River ** : [ 7d ]
sukerpuncher: but
jandje bets (6)

Trambler is a calling station that also sees 75% of the flops.

Seat 2: Trambler ( $37.60)
Seat 5: TitanTiger ( $17.59)
Seat 9: jandje ( $35.75)
xxentreri posts small blind (0.10)
GrandeRojo posts big blind (0.25)
TitanTiger posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jandje [ Kh, Ad ]
jandje raises (1.50) to 1.50
EdGrahm folds.
Trambler calls (1.50)
j_wat folds.
sukerpuncher folds.
TitanTiger calls (1.25)
board_bum folds.
xxentreri folds.
GrandeRojo folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ks, 4d, Kd ]
jandje checks.
Trambler bets (1)
TitanTiger folds.
jandje calls (1)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9s ]
jandje bets (4)
Trambler calls (4)
** Dealing River ** : [ 2c ]
jandje bets (7)
Reply With Quote

Play for FREE and practice your game at...

Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
bdawg56kg
Old 12-08-2005, 06:29 AM #2 (permalink)  
bdawg56kg's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Honolulu
Posts: 1,201
bdawg56kg
Send a message via AIM to bdawg56kg
First hand I wouldn't raise AQo out of the small blind, but as far as the river is concerned, I like a check/call line. Let villian bluff his busted draw. Blocking bet is fine too. Check/calling in hopes of villian bluffin his busted draw is a risky play, but can be very profitable if you have the right read. Heres an example:

Game #1139656697 - (blinds $0.50/$1) No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2005/12/08-01:32:10.0 (CST)
Table "Kuria" (real money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: GWB70 ($20.00 in chips)
Seat 2: B_Rice56 ($97.00 in chips)
Seat 3: mystic333 ($118.75 in chips)
Seat 4: hankiote ($19.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Luv4theDuece ($100.00 in chips)
Seat 7: nonsequitar ($98.00 in chips)
Seat 8: bunnisoos ($144.00 in chips)
Seat 9: Miura Kaito ($100.75 in chips)
Seat 10: tony blonde ($100.00 in chips)
nonsequitar: Post Small Blind ($0.50)
bunnisoos: Post Big Blind ($1)
tony blonde: Sit out
GWB70 : Post ($1)
Dealing...
Dealt to B_Rice56 [ Ad ]
Dealt to B_Rice56 [ Ks ]
Miura Kaito: Fold
GWB70 : Check
B_Rice56: Raise ($4.50)
mystic333: Call ($4.50)
hankiote: Fold
nonsequitar: Call ($4)
bunnisoos: Fold
GWB70 : Fold
*** FLOP *** : [ Kc Th 6h ]
nonsequitar: Check
B_Rice56: Bet ($11)
mystic333: Call ($11)
nonsequitar: Fold
*** TURN *** : [ Kc Th 6h ] [ 8d ]
B_Rice56: Bet ($25)
mystic333: Call ($25)
*** RIVER *** : [ Kc Th 6h 8d ] [ 2s ]
B_Rice56: Check
mystic333: Bet ($30)
B_Rice56: Call ($30)
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $144.50 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Kc Th 6h 8d 2s ]
GWB70 lost $1 (folded)
B_Rice56 bet $70.50, collected $144.50, net +$74 (showed hand) [ Ad Ks ] (a pair of kings)
mystic333 lost $70.50 (showed hand) [ Js Qd ] (high card king)



For the 2nd hand, why are you slowplaying on the flop if villian is a known calling station, especially with a flush draw out. The general rule against calling station is don't bluff em, and don't slowplay em. I throw down the hammer and let villian chase with horrible odds. Pot or 3/4 pot on every street.
Reply With Quote
PokerPatNEU
Old 12-08-2005, 02:05 PM #3 (permalink)  
Full House

Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 797
PokerPatNEU
sukerpuncher: ithink im beat r
sukerpuncher calls (5)

^That scares me. Not sure how i play the river after that. Does this villain table talk during all his hands? I think i may check/call the river. If he bets a value-bettish looking size, you can showdown your TPTK cheap. If he over bets it is usually a bluff and you can make the call pretty confidently i think. If you lead out and he has you beat and value raises you here, say to 18$, you are calling 12$ into a 28$ pot or so with TPTK...that is a tougher decision. Depending on villains table talk habbits in prior hands i might play this the same *shrug*


Hand 2 i agree with Bdawg. Why slowplay the calling station? This is exactly the flop you want against him. If he's holding a 4 or a flush draw you will get paid off. Calling stations bluff less. Don't let him draw cheap.
Reply With Quote
r8ed
Old 12-08-2005, 03:08 PM #4 (permalink)  
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,524
r8ed
Hand 1: The table talk did scare me as I was going to bet more on the river. I figured I wouldn't give him a chance to bluff me off the hand where I felt ahead OR let him off the hand cheap since I felt I was ahead. I mean, look at the board. I put him on KQ or something. I raise AQ regardless of position without a raise in front of me. I'm ahead of most limping hands and I need to raise preflop often enough to get action on AA/KK.

Hand 2: I wanted to show weakness and give somebody else a chance to bet with two other people in the hand. I considered check-raising but figured I could play this slow and give them some confidence. There is a flush draw but I have outs and I'm looking to win more than a tiny pot. I'm actually hoping somebody has the 4 in case another comes out - I can destack them with the higher boat. Since the calling station saw me check-call, he's more apt to stay until the river calling bets. I'm just wondering if I could have got more from him possibly by betting higher or pushing but I took the sure money.

Anyway, first hand he had QJ. Second hand he had A4. They both called.
Reply With Quote
Reply
Latest Poker News
KoRnholio Old 05-26-2012, 03:08 PM    Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
According to an email sent out by Mark Bryan, a gaming analyst at Merrill Lynch, the Australian government plans to legalize online poker sometime in the next six to 12 months. This move will coincide ...

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:35 PM.

Contact Us - Archive - Top

FTR Testimonials

All content
© FlopTurnRiver.com 		Advertising  |   Partners  |   Testimonials  |   T&C  |   Contact Us  |   FTR News & Press  |   Site Map  |   Search FTR

Full Tilt  |   Titan Poker  |   UltimateBet  |   Poker Stars  |   Ladbrokes Bonus  |   Sportsbook  |   Cake Poker  

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum
This is not a gambling website.