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Old 02-23-2009, 09:08 PM     Post subject: Risky cbet into nit #1 (permalink)  
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This is a risky cbet, but I kinda like it at the moment. The problem is that he likes to float with middle Ax, TT, JJ, 88, rarely QQ, so I know i'll be firing another barrel on the turn. Would checking behind be better because there are two villains?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K, Q
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero bets $1.25, 2 folds, BB calls $1, UTG calls $1

Flop: ($3.85) 8, A, 10 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.80,
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Old 02-23-2009, 10:07 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Whats wrong? its a perfect board to cbet and yeah i wouldn't double barrel this unless i hit.
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looks fine and you don't have to bet so much
 
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Old 02-24-2009, 01:01 AM #4 (permalink)  
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cool, just checking because I've been stuck in some tricky river situations lately after 2 barreling.


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Old 02-25-2009, 12:14 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Its actually imo a standard cbet in that spot. Checking here is to fold the hand unless everyone checks an we gutter the nuts on the turn... also if BB calls i'm checking behind on turn, as he's almost always calling turn if he calls flop on that board

UTG has pairs 95% and AA/KK slowplay 4% random hand 1%
easy to play against. we're just thinking about bb here

with a gutter and 2 overs, cbet is fine here as we can ignore UTG and treat it more like a HU pot vs. BB... plus the fact that BB is gonna treat our bet as being stronger usually because its multiway, not realizing we basically can discount the EP limper


also are you sure you know what you are saying about a float? A float is when someone calls without presumbably the best hand to take it away on a later st., a lot of the hands (e.g. Ax) would not be floating here. also most people at your stake aren't floating to float... if they call with just say overs they are usually a fish looking to spike (these guys have obvious stats like high-medium pf vpip, lowishfold to flop bet and high fold to 2x)
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Its actually imo a standard cbet in that spot. Checking here is to fold the hand unless everyone checks an we gutter the nuts on the turn... also if BB calls i'm checking behind on turn, as he's almost always calling turn if he calls flop on that board

UTG has pairs 95% and AA/KK slowplay 4% random hand 1%
easy to play against. we're just thinking about bb here

with a gutter and 2 overs, cbet is fine here as we can ignore UTG and treat it more like a HU pot vs. BB... plus the fact that BB is gonna treat our bet as being stronger usually because its multiway, not realizing we basically can discount the EP limper


also are you sure you know what you are saying about a float? A float is when someone calls without presumbably the best hand to take it away on a later st., a lot of the hands (e.g. Ax) would not be floating here. also most people at your stake aren't floating to float... if they call with just say overs they are usually a fish looking to spike (these guys have obvious stats like high-medium pf vpip, lowishfold to flop bet and high fold to 2x)

Oh, sorry, I misused "float" . I meant that he calls flops loosely hoping to spike.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:47 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Nothing to be sorry about. I just wanted to make sure we are on the same page, just posting for mutual help
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