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bdawg56kg

04-27-2005, 02:25 AM Post subject: Ring game - playing against the shortstack...

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This is a hand I just played, and on the flop it was a very awkward decision, and I seem to run into this kind of scenario a lot.

PokerStars Game #1592327959: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/04/26 - 22:18:41 (ET)
Table 'Gerti' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: bdawg56kg ($33.05 in chips)
Seat 2: DustyToes ($28.55 in chips)
Seat 3: azpkrplr21 ($9 in chips)
Seat 4: ViCiouSRaGe ($8.80 in chips)
Seat 5: marcsavard27 ($42.05 in chips)
Seat 6: grumpybob ($9.95 in chips)
Seat 7: Grabster ($38.95 in chips)
Seat 8: wondergirl10 ($12.40 in chips)
Seat 9: prscott1 ($14.05 in chips)
prscott1: posts small blind $0.10
bdawg56kg: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bdawg56kg [Qs Qd]
DustyToes: calls $0.25
azpkrplr21: calls $0.25
ViCiouSRaGe: folds
marcsavard27: folds
grumpybob: folds
Grabster: folds
wondergirl10: raises $1.75 to $2
prscott1: folds
bdawg56kg: raises $4.50 to $6.50
DustyToes: folds
azpkrplr21: folds
wondergirl10: calls $4.50
*** FLOP *** [4s Kc 5h]
bdawg56kg: bets $6
wondergirl10: calls $5.90 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [4s Kc 5h] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [4s Kc 5h 7d] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bdawg56kg: shows [Qs Qd] (a pair of Queens)
wondergirl10: shows [Js Ks] (a pair of Kings)
wondergirl10 collected $24.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $25.40 | Rake $1.20
Board [4s Kc 5h 7d 9c]
Seat 1: bdawg56kg (big blind) showed [Qs Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: DustyToes folded before Flop
Seat 3: azpkrplr21 folded before Flop
Seat 4: ViCiouSRaGe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: marcsavard27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: grumpybob folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Grabster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: wondergirl10 (button) showed [Js Ks] and won ($24.20) with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: prscott1 (small blind) folded before Flop

How was this played preflop? Should I have put him all in since he was somewhat shortstacked already? And on the flop, I'm first to act, and he has less than $6 left, but the pot is around $12. I figured I'd try to rep the king, but turns out this idiot called a reraise with KJ. I figured checking the flop basically surrenders the hand, and any kind of bet I make will commit me to the pot. Well, what are your thoughts?

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SmackinYaUp

04-27-2005, 02:28 AM

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You did just fine. Shortstacks are easy money most of the time.

I woulda tried to get him all-in PF. He probly woulda called but since you guys saw a flop, you didnt lose any more money than a usual follow up bet would have cost.

Lucid

04-27-2005, 02:36 AM

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I say well-played. I bet wondergirl would have called that bet whether she hit the flop or not. There was a greater probability that she didn't have that king. Going all-in could have been another line you could have taken though.

ville18

04-27-2005, 06:53 AM

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I FK hate microstacks, ppl sitting with 5-10 @ NL25, 20-25 @ NL50 and with 50ish @ NL100, FFS! There's a rebuy button.

poskid_1982

04-27-2005, 10:35 AM

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I like the shortstack that sits there and calls off his stack when I start pushing...by all means let 'em sit and die

Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.

Greedo017

04-27-2005, 11:50 AM

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i don't believe they raised 8xBB preflop, and called a 3x reraise.... wowzaz

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AHiltz

04-27-2005, 12:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedo017

i don't believe they raised 8xBB preflop, and called a 3x reraise.... wowzaz

Thus the reason they were short stacked in the first place

Grand_MasterB

04-27-2005, 12:34 PM

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Short stacks get desperate and will usually not hesitate to push it all in preflop with two face cards. Even if you went all in PF he was calling..he just got lucky and hit his 3 outs

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