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Fnord
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03-09-2008, 12:13 PM
Post subject: Re-stealing with the best hand
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My opponent is very loose and selectivly aggressive. I'm pretty sure he's going after the blinds and I don't think he will play very well post-flop.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG+1 ($429)
MP1 ($92.50)
MP2 ($102.30)
CO ($163.60)
Button ($229.30)
SB ($165.85)
Fnord ($229.55)
UTG ($200)
Preflop: Fnord is BB with K , A . MP2 posts a blind of $2.
3 folds, MP2 (poster) checks, 1 fold, Button calls $2, SB raises to $16, Fnord calls $14, MP2 folds, Button folds.
Flop: ($36) T , K, 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Fnord bets $30, SB calls $30.
Turn: ($96) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Fnord is All-In
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pokerfan
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given your read, i probably 3 bet hard preflop. Also, i dont mind playing my whole stack in blind wars with AK.
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dev
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So preflop, are we thinking he's got something that will payoff TPTK after the flop? I really don't get the flat preflop.
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i prefer to bet like 1/2 - 2/3 pot on the turn considering that he just put less than 1/3 of his starting stack there. Easy shove in 3 bet pot IMO.
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Robb
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Originally Posted by dev
So preflop, are we thinking he's got something that will payoff TPTK after the flop? I really don't get the flat preflop.
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If I understand fnord's line, he feels he has the best hand and can (a) 3bet preflop and take it down, or (b) flat pre and get more money in on the flop. With (a) he earns $22. With (b), he got another $30.
This is read dependent, but fnord is taking maximum advantage if he's reading it right. And fnord has outs + fold equity with the shove if he's wrong.
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dev
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Originally Posted by dev
So preflop, are we thinking he's got something that will payoff TPTK after the flop? I really don't get the flat preflop.
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If I understand fnord's line, he feels he has the best hand and can (a) 3bet preflop and take it down, or (b) flat pre and get more money in on the flop. With (a) he earns $22. With (b), he got another $30.
This is read dependent, but fnord is taking maximum advantage if he's reading it right. And fnord has outs + fold equity with the shove if he's wrong. |
This all makes sense since we hit a K on the flop, but what if the guy leads the flop and all we've got is a couple overs? Is he c-betting enough to make a shove +EV with only 6 outs?
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Robb
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Originally Posted by dev
So preflop, are we thinking he's got something that will payoff TPTK after the flop? I really don't get the flat preflop.
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If I understand fnord's line, he feels he has the best hand and can (a) 3bet preflop and take it down, or (b) flat pre and get more money in on the flop. With (a) he earns $22. With (b), he got another $30.
This is read dependent, but fnord is taking maximum advantage if he's reading it right. And fnord has outs + fold equity with the shove if he's wrong. |
This all makes sense since we hit a K on the flop, but what if the guy leads the flop and all we've got is a couple overs? Is he c-betting enough to make a shove +EV with only 6 outs? |
If fnord's read is solid, yes.
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jyms
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Re read the read.
Robb your pretty close on most of this.
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Fnord
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I didn't expect him to check any flops and intended to raise his ass on just about any 3 cards.
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i dont get why we shove this turn
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agree
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
i dont get why we shove this turn
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Just over pot behind on a draw heavy board.
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dev
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I didn't expect him to check any flops and intended to raise his ass on just about any 3 cards.
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Now it all makes sense.
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