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knightwalker

01-12-2005, 10:07 PM Post subject: Rate this play

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In my Home game last night I had the following hand. First, let me give a little backround. We were playing an eight person Tourney with 2000 in chips for each person. With our Blind structure the blinds stay low and go up as people are eliminated. I was planning to stay very tight until some players got bumped then open up my game. I got rags for about 2 1/2 hours and nobody got bumped. Instead, there were several short stacks and I was getting worried that when it was time came to open up, I would be too far behind. I was sitting on about 1200 chips in the BB. Everyone limps to me. I look down to a 92o. (note this was maybe the second time I had the action limp to me on the button. I had an extreme LAGG to my right who raised 5BB almost every hand.) So Let's see the flop.

Flop comes 9 5 2 rainbow

SB raises 40
I call ( maybe I should have raised here but with my now tight image, I wanted felt I was ahead and didn't want to scare out the other 5 players)

MP calls
CO calls

Turn comes Q completing the rainbow.

I push All In.
MP calls
CO folds
SB Folds

River comes Blank
MP shows Q9 (two pair Queens and Nines)

I had a good read on the MP. I knew she would call me with top pair. And didn't mind taking the pot right there. I just didn't see that nine coming. She just barely had me covered. A few hands later she doubled up again and eventually won.

Did I overplay my two pair in this situation?

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Corey

01-12-2005, 10:28 PM

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look at it this way. You flopped 2 pair, and the other player has top pair. If you would have pushed after the flop she in my guess would have called. Then the turn only helped her.

Sure someone is going to say you could have gotten away from it. But no I dont think you could.

thats poker

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whileone

01-12-2005, 10:41 PM

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Well, the 40 bet made it pretty clear that they had *something*, that late with a short stack, push or fold. If you have some stack, i'd raise to 120 ish they're only drawing to 3 outs right? every nine helps you more. two pair isn't a slowplay kinda hand. i understand you need those chips, but 2 pair just dosn't have the card power in a 5 way pot.

I think you played alright, just got a little greedy. Should have raised or pushed the flop, just like you thought. you likely would have taken it down right then (or busted out anyway)

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01-12-2005, 10:56 PM

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You've definitely got to reraise that flop. Words to live by:

Two pair is NEVER, EVER The nuts. You've got to reraise there to chase out single pairs, pocket pairs that can become trips, straight draws. Make them pay to draw out. You're offering her was too good of odds to draw that second pair.

You have to raise or re-raise with two pair. Too many nagging questions if you don't.

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knightwalker

01-13-2005, 05:33 PM

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Ok so If I am reading this right:
1) I got too greedy, I should have raised on the flop.
2) I should have raised about the size of the pot. After all two pair is not ever the nuts. Again I got impatient and greedy.

So my play was not terrible, but I did overplay my two pair and I definitly got greedy.

a500lbgorilla

01-13-2005, 07:45 PM

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Raise the flop, take two pair heads up. Letting 5 other people draw against you is a bad practice.

Turn play was bad.

Not many beaten hands are calling you other than AQ and 52. Unless you see a lot of huge overbets getting little respect, the push was silly.

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