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Fnord

11-11-2005, 11:46 AM Post subject: Raising to see where I'm at

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Fnord is an unknown quantity at this point

Super-donk busted out and it's late night so the table is running a little weak/tight.

My opponent has a 20/4 split, although that's a big inflated because he will complete his SB with any 2. I've seen him limp big pairs and s00ted connectors UTGish before, so he could have a wide range here. Can get pretty aggro post-flop and we have a bit of a history.

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BB ($40)
UTG ($192.45)
UTG+1 ($128.60)
Fnord ($101.70)
MP2 ($100.65)
CO ($99)
Button ($85.60)
SB ($99)

Preflop: Fnord is MP1 with A

, T

.
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, Fnord raises to $3, 4 folds, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($9.50) T

, 5

, 6

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $4, Fnord calls $4, BB folds.

Turn: ($17.50) 6

(2 players)
UTG bets $12, Fnord raises to $30...

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Pingviini

11-11-2005, 11:58 AM

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have you seen him semi-bluffing as well? I like your raise here.

1) it does define your hand better than just calling. If he calls here I would be extremely careful on river and would probably just check if possible. His re-raise would make me fold here.

2) it protects your hand against any draws which he could have as well giving you lots of folding equity. he doesnt most likely have a 5 outer here but could he be able to fold an overpair against your possible 5 outer?
Also this might give you a cheaper SD.

Reraise here is somewhat standard play to me. Calling does seem like a pretty bad option in this case.

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Fnord

11-11-2005, 12:01 PM

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I think a lot of the regulars here are thinking....

Fold pre-flop
Raise the flop

Also, I think the only river I would bet against this player would be a Ten.

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Jay67s

11-11-2005, 12:01 PM

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I like the play, I may have raised the flop, but he may think thats just a steal. I think the turn raise may carry more weight, I would suspect him to lay it down either here or check/call - check/fold the river unless he has a six.

What do you do if he plays back at you????

Fnord

11-11-2005, 12:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay67s

What do you do if he plays back at you????

Insta-muck. He knows what I'm repping and I think he lays down a lot of hands here.

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Pingviini

11-11-2005, 12:38 PM

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Fnord: I would like to you your thoughts for raising on turn vs. raising on the flop. Why do you prefer the turn re-raise here.

I have nothing against playing ATs from MP in an unraised pot.

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Silly String

11-11-2005, 01:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pingviini

Fnord: I would like to you your thoughts for raising on turn vs. raising on the flop. Why do you prefer the turn re-raise here.

Yes Yes, Me too.

I also would like to speculate a little. What would you have done on the turn if a J

or Q

would have come. Those are likely holdings to counterfeit your TP from EP limp/callers.

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Rondavu

11-11-2005, 04:59 PM

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I would raise the flop to make the draw pay. He's semi bluffing

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Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.

Fnord

11-11-2005, 05:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rondavu

I would raise the flop to make the draw pay. He's semi bluffing

The draw hates life when I turn screw him.

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