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Old 06-11-2007, 04:38 PM     Post subject: quick hand 6max $25NL Will Hill - what you do? #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain has been playing solidly and taken out a couple of players who were being all-in monkeys againsty each other. He waited and then hit trips with pockets 9s.
Heros image is tight, built up slowly to $75

Hero, SB: $75
BB:$12
Villain: $85

Dealt to Hero : A 5 sooted hearts.

Hero raises to $.75
BB re-raises to $2
Villain flat calls, and hero just calls.

Flop is : A, A, J rainbow.
Pot is $6

Villain checks
Hero raises $1.5
BB re-rasies $3

Villain calls
Hero re-raises to $12
Pot is now $14.5
BB folds
Villian GOES ALL IN.

Call? Fold?
Hero has trips, but its a really weird all-in. Straight draw trying to push off? Trip J's, A better kicker?
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:11 PM #2 (permalink)  
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It doesn't look that weird to me. You pretty obviously have an ace; at $25NL people find trips REALLY hard to fold; so he pushes his AK/AQ assuming you'll call and be drawing to 3 outs at best.

His thinking - "ooh, top trips, better slowplay this. Great, a bet. Ooh a raise! This could get good! They're building the pot by themselves now, I'll just call. Ooh another re-raise! fantastic! This guy's GOT to have the other ace, and sat this level there's no way he's folding. All in, I think!"

You've got to remember, trips crap kicker is NOT a monster. You only beat two pair, compared to what TP beats, and if you are facing strength it's likely the other player has the good because with a pair on the board, marginal and drawing hands are likely to be spooked.

In this situation folding is the only possible answer against a solid villain, especially since it's for 250BBs.
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 I played a hand like this with AT the other day, villain had QJ.

However, this is a fold as your kicker really comes into play.
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Based on the fact that your read on villain is that he is solid, you have to fold. He's got exactly JJ, AJ, AQ or AK. If you have him tagged as a donkey, you'd have to call/push because a donkey will push with KJ, QJ, QT, QQ, KK or even a remote chance he has TT, A2, A3 or A4.
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 I don't even raise again after villain coldcalls the flop. You really have to wonder what possible holdings he could have to do that and no one of them are one's you beat.
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I don't even raise again after villain coldcalls the flop. You really have to wonder what possible holdings he could have to do that and no one of them are one's you beat.
I agree. The extra raise just folds all the hands you beat just in case he has one.
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 thanks for replies.

I was actually villain and had A-J.

He called with his A-5 and gave me his stack

I just wondered if anyone could shed any light on why he called. The minute i went all in with my AJ i regretted it, thinking i should have value bet to get more money.
I wondered if anyone could justify his call.

Obviouslyit was just a bad call from him.

I'm never quite sure how to get most money when i have the nuts. I normally end up just whacking in the money and see if anyone calls. Which seems to happen quite alot at this level.

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 I don't like your line against thinking opponents.
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I don't like your line against thinking opponents.
what do you mean?
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