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Old 08-24-2006, 05:35 AM     Post subject: QQ vs. Turn Donkbet #1 (permalink)  
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SB ($21.15)
BB ($24.25)
UTG ($20.25)
UTG+1 ($25.00)
MP1 ($27.00)
MP2 ($28.05)
MP3 ($22.90)
Hero ($23.90)
Button ($16.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q.
2 folds, UTG+1 checks, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($2.50) 4, 3, 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.85, SB calls $1.85.

Turn: ($6.20) T (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero ?
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Old 08-24-2006, 05:57 AM     Post subject: Re: QQ vs. Turn Donkbet #2 (permalink)  
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Villain could easily be thinking you c-bet and you're trying to buy the pot with whiffed AK and using the ten as a scare card that he "hit". Or maybe he did hit it. Good for you.

3-betting is fine for me against certain opponents, just calling down works too if you're a bit tight. I never, ever fold this without an overcard.
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what kinda player is he? any reads? any HUD stats on him
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what kinda player is he? any reads? any HUD stats on him
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Old 08-24-2006, 05:48 PM #5 (permalink)  
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id call, hes outta position and probably has you on nothing rather than something.

Against a known fish id raise here. His line is scary but its also protection.
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Old 08-24-2006, 06:01 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I see turned 2 pair a lot when looking lines like this up. But given the board I'm thinking AT. Hmmm.....
 
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Old 08-24-2006, 06:10 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I see turned 2 pair a lot when looking lines like this up. But given the board I'm thinking AT. Hmmm.....
that why if opp is a donk and called the flop with a gutshot id push becuase he too often has AT.

I guess A5 cant be ruled out either.
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Old 08-24-2006, 06:50 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I call for pot control and call a reasonable bet if he leads the river. If he checks, I'll check behind.
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Old 08-24-2006, 07:35 PM #9 (permalink)  
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call and bet if he checks the river or call a bet.

Big overpairs are enormous hands at 25nl. We can't really put him on a set because his line is not typical of a set. Only garbage hands turn two pair (T4?). A whole wealth of hands pay us off.

This is a spot where i'd consider getting it all in on a safe river against a fish, and maybe even against an unknown. In other words, I am probably not getting away from this hand at any point.
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Old 08-24-2006, 07:43 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Looks like a straight draw gone a missing on the turn. Call here and call a bet that's less than 2/3rds pot on river (re-think upon an ace or king). My only worry here is TT.


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