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Old 07-13-2009, 03:00 AM     Post subject: QQ overpair facing triple barrel #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is 42/20/1.8 with low aggression frequency on all streets

His WTSD is 19.3 and W$SD is 60.8. All of this over a 750 hand sample

I folded river because I did not think I was ahead of his 4 barreling range (KK+). Any other way to have played it? Should I call river?

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saw flop

Hero (MP2) ($50.75)
CO ($13.65)
Button ($14.50)
SB ($50)
BB ($83.25)
UTG ($50)
UTG+1 ($48.50)
MP1 ($124.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q
2 folds, MP1 bets $2, Hero calls $2, 4 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 3, J, 9 (2 players)
MP1 bets $3, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($10.75) 8 (2 players)
MP1 bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($20.75) 6 (2 players)
MP1 bets $13, Hero folds

Total pot: $20.75 | Rake: $1
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Old 07-13-2009, 03:05 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 i missed the part where you raised?
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:04 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I think there's a reason why we flop QQ preflop and not raise the flop.
With QQ flatting preflop,the flopturnriver is a good board for us.I call,but probably not too happy with it.
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I think there's a reason why we flop QQ preflop and not raise the flop.
With QQ flatting preflop,the flopturnriver is a good board for us.I call,but probably not too happy with it.

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Old 07-14-2009, 09:57 PM #5 (permalink)  
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So he never barrels JT/JQ/JK/JA?
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:03 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 looks fine to me, although your reasoning might suck on the earlier streets but you didn't include it.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:44 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 no reason to raise anywhere really but call the river cmon
 
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Old 07-16-2009, 10:33 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 tbh, I don't really pay attention to aggression factor and frequency... but I can't imagine that it would turn an overpair into a fold here... I mean, even if it's around 15%, he would still be betting tptk, or even less because of how many flops he sees. And even if he only bets 33, JJ, 99, 88, KK, AA, QTs (28), and AJ (12) - it's still pretty close - you'd only have to add KJ to his range and it's a +EV call.



I'm reluctant to say ld0 call, because I was playing a guy HU yesterday who had 60% vpip and 85% fold to c-bet, 75% fold to donk bet (10%pfr) over 200 hands... if that guy had tripple barreled like that, I would hate my QQ - he was just trying to hit a monster and then donk pot or donk shove into me so I don't have to bother to bet. I still would have call because wtf sample size
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you need to be good here like 28% of the time
come the fuck on

he has Jx here sometimes
if he has a low aggression frequency on the flop, he doesn't always bet his draws or 88 or whatever the fuck you're afraid of
but you can't put people on KK+ every time
especially since it's not like this guy is 50/0/0.6 and suddenly min3b you pre or something
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:16 AM #10 (permalink)  
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As someone stated earlier the point of you flatting was to get into a situation like this. I dont see how you fold here. This should be a reraise preflop imo
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Old 07-16-2009, 05:24 PM #11 (permalink)  
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As someone stated earlier the point of you flatting was to get into a situation like this. I dont see how you fold here. This should be a reraise preflop imo
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:07 AM #12 (permalink)  
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i missed the part where we 3bet a 42/40 passive IP
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:57 PM #13 (permalink)  
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 pre-flop i 3-bet. Calling is fine though, but then you have to call the river bet.
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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Old 07-17-2009, 09:39 PM #14 (permalink)  
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So over 750 hands, he's managed to play over 300 of them, of which he raised 150. With that in mind, what was it about his line that made you think you were up against KK+ this one time? :P
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Old 07-17-2009, 09:41 PM #15 (permalink)  
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 I don't understand the river fold at all.

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