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Old 07-23-2006, 07:45 AM     Post subject: QQ minraised twice.. #1 (permalink)  
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No reads on this guy..too much respect?

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UTG+1 ($51.25)
MP1 ($26.40)
MP2 ($38.00)
MP3 ($21.55)
Hero ($24.60)
Button ($16.35)
SB ($39.20)
BB ($20.00)
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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q.
5 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, Button raises to $2.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($4.90) 3, 7, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, Button bets $8, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $16.90
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Old 07-23-2006, 10:32 AM #2 (permalink)  
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At those stakes I would be so tempted to push all in preflop, just because I like to gamble at times. With no read on villain I would fold most likely, even though I would really hate to do it. Probably AA or KK. At those levels minraises are mostly beeging to be called, so you might asweel fold and not pay off. Reraises preflop are mostly monsters at those levels, wheras the reraising range is much broader as you go up some levels.

If villain was a aggressive donk who would raise often to push poeple of their pair I would push all in on the flop, but thats very read dependable.
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Old 07-23-2006, 02:57 PM #3 (permalink)  
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1) Why are you sitting at this table with a bunch of shorties?
2) Why are you a shortie?
3) Why are you min-raising pf?

With no reads I would most likely 3bet ai against this shortie... which would be much easier with a full stack..

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Old 07-23-2006, 03:48 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Are you kidding me? The guy has a $16 stack and you are folding QQ on a safe flop with $10 to go for a $32 pot. This is beyond horrible.
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Old 07-23-2006, 03:55 PM #5 (permalink)  
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With no reads I would most likely 3bet ai against this shortie... which would be much easier with a full stack..
Umm why would it be much easier with a full stack? He has the guy covered...
The only good move here is to push over his flop raise.
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:33 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 I don't know stop yelling at me!! I guess I was just trying to point out the fact that buying in short and sitting with a bunch of shorties is not good.... but then I started thinking that maybe the converter messed up at it is 25nl...

But regardless the point is don't fold.

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Old 07-23-2006, 07:15 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Sorry this was 25NL, not 50NL...converter screwed up.
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 I think you should've reraised one more time preflop, it would allow you to put him on a smaller range.

Even with your play... he still could have 10's or J's, maybe 9's. Maybe AK (donkey). Those are just as likely as AA or KK, right? I think i'd push.
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Old 07-23-2006, 08:02 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I think a rereraise PF would define his hand and how strong yours is compared to it.......

Plus on the flop he has about $7 behind him, I believe I push here and take the hit if its AA, KK
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Old 07-25-2006, 03:27 PM #10 (permalink)  
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There are a lot of stupid $25 NL players out there, and we like taking their money - but most of them do not play a missed AK like this on a short stack.
They will simply reraise all-in on the flop, smooth-call chasing overs, or fold.
This is exactly AA against an unknown more times than not.

You even solidly led the flop and he minraises to keep you around and make sure you are pot-committed. You certainly can't call his reraise you just have to push - you decided that once again, this is the overused preflop minreraise with AA. Nice fold.
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Old 07-25-2006, 03:30 PM #11 (permalink)  
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3-bet preflop, quit letting people control you with weak ass bets.
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