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spino1i

09-14-2005, 11:52 PM Post subject: QQ meets giant raise pre-flop

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Villain is TAG up until this point.. whats your play here and why?

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$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, September 14, 19:49:21 EDT 2005
Table Table 41397 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: mikecolumbia ( $334.60 )
Seat 2: Kingfish__ ( $84 )
Seat 3: Brad_TheMan ( $171.15 )
Seat 4: theOspot ( $200 )
Seat 5: meathoohs1 ( $225.80 )
Seat 6: Ace9oD ( $150.80 )
Seat 7: trueblue85 ( $179.55 )
Seat 8: Beevers1 ( $190 )
Seat 9: lmw210 ( $185.05 )
Seat 10: JadeStar ( $230 )
Brad_TheMan posts small blind [$1].
theOspot posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Kingfish__ [ Qd Qs ]
meathoohs1 calls [$2].
Ace9oD calls [$2].
trueblue85 folds.
Beevers1 folds.
lmw210 calls [$2].
JadeStar raises [$30].
mikecolumbia folds.
Kingfish__ ???

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johnny_fish

09-15-2005, 12:02 AM

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Either allin or fold. If he's a solid player he'd play this with AA/KK to look like a maniac and get calls. If he's fish he could have anything, including AA/KK. Fold seems the best option with no further info.

spino1i

09-15-2005, 12:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

i know for a fact he's a solid player. So fold then.

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IowaSkinsFan

09-15-2005, 01:02 PM

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If he's a solid player i bet he's going for the maniac call.

lowBoy

09-15-2005, 02:23 PM

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Fold like a cheap sheet. Why would a solid player do that without a hand that he could call a hefty re-raise with?

Surf_Thug

09-15-2005, 03:52 PM

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For some time now I have pondered the value of QQ in all in situation pre-flop in cash games.

I have come to the same conclusion as everyone else, If he has AA/KK your 6/1..

If he also has QQ it's a split. His 4th most likley holding is AK which is nearly even money, so to me it seems like a loosing play to play for stacks with QQ.

Unless of course he's a maniac and capable of moving in with JJ/1010/99 shiz like that..Then I might give the call some thought.

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ensign_lee

09-15-2005, 08:33 PM

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Nobody thinks that this might be a typo resulting from multitabling? :P

But I fold painfully here.

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Zangief

09-15-2005, 08:44 PM

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In a live game, I've seen a player who would make a disproportionately large raise like this with TT-77 because he just hated to play the flop. But I've never seen this online.

outphase

09-15-2005, 09:05 PM

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Based on your stack size and the relative size of the bet, you are either all in or have to fold. I am leaning toward the fold because you said your opp is TAgg and you won't be able to outplay him post flop with your stack.

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