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zook
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09-21-2006, 04:09 AM
Post subject: QQ facing turn push
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Do you give an unknown credit for a monster here?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG+1 ($62.43)
UTG+2 ($51.65)
MP1 ($61.38)
Hero ($67.25)
MP3 ($59.05)
CO ($63.20)
Button ($57.35)
SB ($48)
BB ($38.90)
UTG ($41)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q , Q . SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $2.50, MP1 calls $2.50.
Flop: ($9.75) 2, 8 , 4 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $7, UTG+1 calls $7, MP1 folds.
Turn: ($23.75) 4 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $52.43 (All-In), Hero ???
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vegascoop
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How many hands with him and what's his perception of you so far? You've both won a little at the table so there has to be some read.
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TerryToma
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Full House
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gotta fold, hes repping the 4. ive done this a number of times with turned trips.
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zook
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by vegascoop
How many hands with him and what's his perception of you so far? You've both won a little at the table so there has to be some read.
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No stats, so less than 25 hands. Nothing stuck out about his play, I won one small pot from him with a c-bet a few hands earlier, and before that he took down a decent pot with a big bet on a turn with a scary board (AKxx, 2 spades) and two other players still in.
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vegascoop
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Straight
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I don't overbet like that. I'll have to add that line. Thanks.
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zook
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4-of-a-Kind
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Villain showed Ks3s 
Try adding that overbet to your arsenal 
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
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i thought this was an insta-call with out seeing the actual hands. Am i a fish?
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zook
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
i thought this was an insta-call with out seeing the actual hands. Am i a fish?
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Apparently not! What made it an insta-call for you? The fact that an overbet like this is a really strange line to take with a full house?
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by zook
Quote:
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
i thought this was an insta-call with out seeing the actual hands. Am i a fish?
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Apparently not! What made it an insta-call for you? The fact that an overbet like this is a really strange line to take with a full house? |
the fact that he makes you fold any two cards that missed.
There is nothing here that would have hit your overcards so he either sucks badly at getting paid or something isnt right.
If he led or c/r'ed id be scared but an open push when a fairly blank card hits is dumb. He either has quads or nothing imo which is why id call. If the top card paired on the turn thats a different story at times. But again, why push quads? Why overbet when your opponent appears to have nothing anyway? hence i think call
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TerryToma
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Full House
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Originally Posted by TerryToma
gotta fold, hes repping the 4. ive done this a number of times with turned trips.
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i mean, call! hes repping the 4 so he obviously doesnt have it!..  nh.
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djzcko
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Flush
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Originally Posted by vegascoop
I don't overbet like that. I'll have to add that line. Thanks.
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I'll overbet on occasion to mix it up. It can be a very powerful tool and you are missing out on some profits if you don't take advantage of it. I don't overbet bluff like villain in this hand--I overbet when I have a hand and I don't think villain will call my c-bet. It has worked to perfection many times...just gotta pick the right times and players to use it against. It will induce calls on hands you probably would have never received any action on because your bet looks like a stone cold bluff.
Oh, and I insta-call that bet any day. The vast majority of the time it's a missed flush draw trying to steal the pot.
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zook
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by TerryToma
i mean, call! hes repping the 4 so he obviously doesnt have it!.. nh. |
I folded  NH villain.
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