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QQ facing limp/caller's heat on 965 fd flop

  
 
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Old 05-24-2008, 11:27 PM     Post subject: QQ facing limp/caller's heat on 965 fd flop #1 (permalink)  
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been donking in full ring lately, and wasn't sure what to do here. would u fold?

MP2 is 20/5 over 150ish hands, and insta hit the pot button on the flop. i'm running 20/18 and have isolated MP2 quite a bit. i dunno MP1 at all, he's new at the table.

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UTG ($163)
UTG+1 ($75.35)
MP1 ($195)
MP2 ($253.30)
MP3 ($171.60)
CO ($237.40)
Hero ($231.45)
SB ($118.55)
BB ($210.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, Q.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 calls $2, MP2 calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $13, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $11, MP2 calls $11.

Flop: ($44) 5, 6, 9 (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 bets $44, Hero?
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Old 05-25-2008, 02:20 AM #2 (permalink)  
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make a commitment plan before you call his flop bet, please.
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Old 05-25-2008, 02:36 AM #3 (permalink)  
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so call the flop, then fold if he bets 7/8/club, maybe T or A? or just evaluate by his bet size/timing?
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Old 05-25-2008, 04:32 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I put Mp2's ranges on three sets, A9o,A9s,97s,98s,78s,77-88,TT-JJ and big flush draw +overs. Our equity against his wide range should be around 55%.
As played, you flopped over pair on heavy coordinated low cards board, the SPR of 5 is low enough to push over his PSB on the flop. In this 3-way pot, i'd just flat call with unknown full stack MP1 still left to act.. we have to fold if villain fires another big bullet on scary turn. However, its likely we will be committed, so make 2/3 pot size bet when checked to or shove over his bet if any blank good-looking cards fell on the table.

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so call the flop, then fold if he bets 7/8/club, maybe T or A? or just evaluate by his bet size/timing?
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good post, ty. i was hasty and just shoved over, should've called to see what MP1 did. MP2 somehow showed me KK...weird...still started wondering if i should assume in full ring i'm beat too often on the flop, but the range u wrote make sense.
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Old 05-25-2008, 02:04 PM #6 (permalink)  
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dont be result oriented and take a note on this guy who played KK sooo badly. As long as you make good plans around commitment, your TPTK or overpair hands should be much easier to play when you hit your desirable SPR. Incidentally, I'd say that your QQ hand is at least 50% equity against your semi-loose opponent's likely ranges.
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good post, ty. i was hasty and just shoved over, should've called to see what MP1 did. MP2 somehow showed me KK...weird...still started wondering if i should assume in full ring i'm beat too often on the flop, but the range u wrote make sense.
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