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Old 05-11-2006, 07:39 PM     Post subject: QQ on BB #1 (permalink)  

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PokerStars Game #4901309678: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/05/11 - 15:18:12 (ET)
Table 'Naiad' 9-max Seat #6 is the button

Seat 3: Bad Guy ($28.50 in chips)

Seat 8: Hero ($25 in chips)

Hero: posts big blind $0.25

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Hero [Qh Qs]
Bad Guy: raises $1 to $1.25
Hero: raises $1.25 to $2.50
Bad Guy: calls $1.25

*** FLOP *** [2s 3c Js]

Hero: bets $7
Bad Guy : raises $14 to $21
Hero: folds
Bad Guy collected $18.20 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot $19.10 | Rake $0.90
Board [2s 3c Js]

Feels like he had higher pockets or JJ, or did I make a misstake?
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Old 05-11-2006, 07:42 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Is this heads up? I guess it's very read dependant, but AJ, KJ, QJ, TT, and many others may make this same play. Or maybe even a flush semi-bluff?

Re-raise more PF, don't bet so much on the flop. As played: call and bet into him on the next round.
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:18 PM #3 (permalink)  
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NM, I just noticed the stack sizes. If he's been passive, fold. Otherwise push.
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Old 05-11-2006, 10:06 PM #4 (permalink)  

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Thing is that I got QQ before the button had gone around since I sat down so I didn't know what kin of player he was. But judgeing from how he played afterwards he had me beat since he was very passive. I think I made a good laydown.
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Old 05-12-2006, 03:44 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I doubt he had higher pockets. He would have reraised you w/ AA or KK preflop most likely. Only JJ beats you here. It is really read dependant but he could also just have paired his jack and think that you are making a c-bet w/ AK. I have made this laydown in the past and it has been shown to me that it was a poor decision.
Also, if you are planning on folding to a reraise, then bet less than $7. You are reallying leaving your children out there. Maybe fire like $4 out and fold to a reraise but $7 is alot to leave on the table.
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Old 05-12-2006, 03:57 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Looks like a good laydown. Your line screams big pair and he doesn't seem to care. Without a read, I fold here.
 
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Old 05-12-2006, 03:25 PM     Post subject: AJ #7 (permalink)  
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Your flop bet makes it look like your making a play at the pot. AJ is pushing you here, if he is loose call, if he is tight you have a much harder decision.
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Old 05-12-2006, 03:42 PM #8 (permalink)  
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1. raise more pre-flop please
2. bet less on flop
3. good fold after a 3x raise on top of your overbet

Note: there's usually not a good reason to overbet the pot (on the river with a great hand is about the only time i do it i think). it sucks for you to bet that much and then get raised out of the hand. if you had bet $3-$4 and he raised then it would be easier for you to call and lead the turn but after your overbet you will commit yourself if you continue on.
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Old 05-12-2006, 05:00 PM #9 (permalink)  
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