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EricE
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08-13-2005, 03:00 PM
Post subject: QQ all in PF?
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Full House
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Button ($9.35)
SB ($6.60)
Hero ($27.05)
UTG ($13.60)
UTG+1 ($8.95)
MP1 ($17.80)
MP2 ($11.75)
CO ($16.65)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , Q .
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, SB raises to $0.55, Hero raises to $1.1, UTG calls $0.90, MP1 folds, SB raises to $6.65, Hero folds, UTG folds.
Final Pot: $8.85
Results below:
No showdown. SB wins $8.85.
I don't hesitate to take KK or AA heads up All-in PF but I am much more cautious with QQ. Should I be? Whats your opinion. Do you take it HU All-in or would you fold here. I generaly take it HU against short stacks and that has definetly worked out so far...I just don't like to risk my whole stack on it. Your move?
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m3laNcholy
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Easy fold. The fact that he raised, got re-raised and then pushed is usually enough to put someone on AA/KK.
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outphase
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Do a stronger raise than minraising, you get more information that way and you represent a stronger hand. At this level though, I wouldn't be surprised if they turned up AK
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Originally Posted by lambchopdc
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ensign_lee
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Because of the level where you were at, I call. Too many people do this with smaller pocket pairs hoping for a coinflip and too many people do this with AQs or something like that. Call.
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SinkRox
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ill presonally call if its less than 25BB raise.
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lowBoy
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I'd be happy with this laydown without reads at 50NL, but even then I see people go in with smaller PPs, and AK like this all the time. At 10NL if you don't have reads, I think it's an +EV move to call.
Especially since you min-raised him, as outphase said you're not repping a strong hand, so he can donk his way in with tons of stuff.
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Greedo017
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"SB ($6.60)"
"SB raises to $6.65"
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i betcha that i got something you ain't got, that's called courage, it don't come from no liquor bottle, it ain't scotch
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EricE
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Originally Posted by Greedo017
"SB ($6.60)"
"SB raises to $6.65"
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Hell if I know Greedoo. I have been stumped by the amounts at PS for a while. Like when I am raising someone and I want to put them all in…if I bet the exact amount of $ that they show at the table then they will always be left with some $ if they call. I don’t know why. To counter that I have gotten in the habit of overbetting what they show by $2. If I only overbet by $1 they the sometimes have money left. I don’t understand it either. Anyone know?
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EricE
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Originally Posted by outphase
Do a stronger raise than minraising, you get more information that way and you represent a stronger hand. At this level though, I wouldn't be surprised if they turned up AK
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Two people have mentioned that I minraised, yet my raise was double his. I thought double his raise was anything but a minraise. Am I wrong? What size should my raise be such that it won't be a min raise? Another way to say it is...what should my raise have been?
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Aces
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Originally Posted by EricE
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Originally Posted by outphase
Do a stronger raise than minraising, you get more information that way and you represent a stronger hand. At this level though, I wouldn't be surprised if they turned up AK
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Two people have mentioned that I minraised, yet my raise was double his. I thought double his raise was anything but a minraise. Am I wrong? What size should my raise be such that it won't be a min raise? Another way to say it is...what should my raise have been? |
Technically I think a min raise would've been another .45, making it an even $1 instead of $1.10, but it's effectively a min raise. (A raise has to be at least the amount of the last raise).
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Lukie
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Generally 3-4x the original raise is a good starting place. So if someone raises 4xBB preflop, and you want to reraise with QQ-AA (or any hand), make it at least 12xBB to go.
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jmontis
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well, since you posted it here, he probably had AA/KK heh
the play is so mindless at .05/.10 that I'm calling this all day.
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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journey075
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Originally Posted by Lukie
Generally 3-4x the original raise is a good starting place. So if someone raises 4xBB preflop, and you want to reraise with QQ-AA (or any hand), make it at least 12xBB to go.
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3-4x is a huge amount to raise. if somebody makes a $4 bet in 100nl and i take it to $12-16, im not getting many calls from hands that arent in good shape. 2.5x is the standard hu re-raise.
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