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Old 06-01-2006, 03:33 AM     Post subject: QJs flop three of a kind #1 (permalink)  
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A few limped, I was CO with QJs, I raised to 0.12, two called.

Flop is QQ7

UTG bets 0.16, one fold, I raise to 0.32. UTG goes all in, I call.

Ends up showing QK - outkicking me.


Was my call of the all in push by UTG a bad call? I figured there were only a handful of hands that had me beat (QK, QA, Q7).
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Old 06-01-2006, 02:34 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I guess I was thinking:

http://poker-tools.FlopTurnRiver.com...Calculator.php
FlopTurnRiver.com -h Qh Jh - Qc 2c-Ac -- Qs Qd 7h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Qs Qd 7h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qh Jh 687 69.39 108 10.91 195 19.70 0.792
Qc 2c 108 10.91 687 69.39 195 19.70 0.208

To

http://poker-tools.FlopTurnRiver.com...Calculator.php
FlopTurnRiver.com -h Qh Jh - Qc Tc -- Qd Qs 7h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Qs Qd 7h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qh Jh 687 69.39 117 11.82 186 18.79 0.788
Qc Tc 117 11.82 687 69.39 186 18.79 0.212

Whereas

http://poker-tools.FlopTurnRiver.com...Calculator.php
FlopTurnRiver.com -h Qh Jh - Qc Kc -- Qd Qs 7h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Qs Qd 7h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qh Jh 153 15.45 669 67.58 168 16.97 0.239
Kc Qc 669 67.58 153 15.45 168 16.97 0.761

Was it foolish of me to put him on less than QK/QA in 6max? I didn't have any huge reads on him, though in the past he did make some poor plays from what I'd seen.
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:11 PM #3 (permalink)  
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If he's really a poor player then I'll destack in this spot all day against his range. Your trip kicker is high enough to play with.
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:11 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 You raised a bit light preflop, minraised on the flop (yuck) and correctly called his push. Too bad he had you outkicked.
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:21 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Thanks for the analysis guys. I figured I should have probably raised more postflop. As for preflop I try to keep my raises always at 3xBB, but I might change that to 4xBB.
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:27 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 Personally I like 4BB+1BB per limper. But never more than 6BB. But that's not absolutely necessary, depends on how you want to play it postflop. But I'd definately advise going to 4BB standard.
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 how anyone could possibly give advice on this hand without knowing stack sizes is beyond me.

Also, I love being nit-picky, and 77 also beats you.
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Old 06-01-2006, 05:38 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Sorry about missing stack sizes; Both myself and villain had roughly equal stack sizes of around 5.50$ and the person who folded had 2$ I believe.
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