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Old 10-03-2005, 02:14 AM     Post subject: Pure genius #1 (permalink)  
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CO ($67.73)
Button ($84.50)
SB ($3.95)
BB ($78.40)
UTG ($49.20)
UTG+1 ($44.37)
UTG+2 ($66.30)
Hero ($49.95)
MP2 ($55.15)
MP3 ($78.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4, 4. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, 4 folds, SB raises to $3.95(All in) UTG calls $3.45, Hero calls $3.45, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($12.35) 2, 7, 3 (3 players)
UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($24.35) 8 (3 players)
UTG bets $15,Hero raises to $40 (All in)
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:26 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I don't like this without some read telling you that he's unlikely to have an overpair. You only have ~$15 left, so by going all-in you've essentially min-raised on the turn. That's not strong enough to make most players fold an overpair.

If he doesn't have a hand, he should be folding - the fact that he didn't is really immaterial. If he does have a hand, your bet's not strong enough to get him to fold it.

So the way I see it this push is a losing bet long-term.
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Old 10-03-2005, 05:48 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Hm....


The hand history is screwed up...
let me see if I can fix it.

EDIT: The all ins weren't shown on the hand history, some problem with the converter...
I added the all ins. The pot calculations were also off. I fixed this.

I thought there was a good chance that UTG had me beat, but that he wouldn't call my all in.
I was almost positive that SB had two big cards and was trying to pick up the pot preflop.
If he had an overpair, he would raise for value, not 8x all in.
So my raise picked up a substancial side pot, and isolated the all in player(who I thought I had beaten) for a large main pot.
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Am I being to results oriented on this hand?
I called the flop with the intention of raising the turn if no A,K or Q came.
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:10 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Bumpity bump bump.

I love this hand.
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:57 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I don't get it, why would UTG be betting into a dry side pot unless he was sure he had you beat and if he does do you think he would turn down 3:1 odds on the turn?. Also the SB could easaly have a mid to low PP for the same reasons you stated. Why not isolate on the flop when theres more chance of UTG folding?

Probably did wonders for your image though...
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:21 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Fold every street. Spewing.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:59 PM #9 (permalink)  
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He has you beat unless he's a complete jackass bully. The only question is whether he'll call or not.
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Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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Pre-flop: Limp is ok. You're calling $3.45 to win a $12.35 pot, the deeper stack has $45 behind. I don't think you have pot odds here, and with the protected pot and UTG having shown no strength I don't see you winning the max when you set-up. Suck it up, cry and fold.
Flop: I guess you had a read here. I really don't like your chances against the all-in, so you're really playing against the $6 bet into the dry pot.
Turn: Follow-through on flop plan.

Hold'em has a habbit of causing cascading errors. One small mistake on a early street can put you into tough spots to make compounding errors on later streets. You got to ask yourself if you really want to get involved here pre-flop.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:59 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Hold'em has a habbit of causing cascading errors. One small mistake on a early street can put you into tough spots to make compounding errors on later streets. You got to ask yourself if you really want to get involved here pre-flop.
Agree. This is why I am real careful about what short stack AIs I’ll call PF. It can put you into pots with other bigstacks with a big pot on the flop. Now you feel you can’t fold because the pot is big, so you call or bluff the flop. Cascading errors.

The PF call is marginal. I fold the flop IF I called PF.
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