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SinkRox

10-18-2005, 11:37 PM Post subject: THIS POST SUCKS

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Checkout this beauty I flopped.. i slow played it somewhat to see how panned out.. there was no PFR so it seemed very unlikely I could get anyone AI at the flop. One of my outs arrived... then by the looks of things one of his on the river: crippling my hand!

> Game # 338,879,954 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards
Only 15 minutes left until the start of the $100 Daddy Crapshoot with a $6,000 GUARANTEED prizepool. Register now.
> mick111111 folded
> yosume2k called for $0.20
> martin_111 called for $0.20
> Scriabina folded
> High_Jack checked
> T-man-13 called for $0.20
> daisymaynot called for $0.20
> SinkRox called for $0.10
> igotbeer checked

> Dealing the Flop(J©6§10©)
> SinkRox checked
> igotbeer checked
> yosume2k checked
> martin_111 checked
Every 100,000th hand dealt will be classified as a Magic “Golden” Hand, the winner of each winning a $1,000 Golden Ticket.
> High_Jack checked
> T-man-13 bet for $0.20
> daisymaynot folded
> SinkRox called for $0.20
> igotbeer folded
> yosume2k called for $0.20
> martin_111 called for $0.20
> High_Jack folded

> Dealing the turn(Q§)
> SinkRox checked
> yosume2k checked
> martin_111 checked
> T-man-13 bet for $0.60
> SinkRox raised for $1.20
> yosume2k called for $1.20
> martin_111 folded
> T-man-13 called for $0.60

> Dealing the river(J¨)
> SinkRox bet for $1.60
> yosume2k folded
> T-man-13 raised for $3.20
> SinkRox folded
> T-man-13 mucked
> T-man-13 wins $10.15

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Fnord

10-19-2005, 12:10 AM

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This post sucks. Put the effort into fixing it.

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10-19-2005, 01:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

This post sucks. Put the effort into fixing it.

Normally I would just smile because I agree with Fnord, and move on.
However, the quality of Hand histories in this forum is absolutely deteriorating, and the above is completely unacceptable.

We have a great converter tool for those players that play on Party/Stars which is the majority of players on this forum. Use it.

For hand histories like the above, at least proof read it to see if it is readable, (which this one is not.) and preferably fix it so that it is close to the format of the converted hand histories.
The Sticky at the top of this forum outlines the guidelines, but lately these "good" posts have been the exception as opposed to the rule.

Secondly I understand that Fnord gave up on his little peeve about not mentioning table texture and reads on your opponents, but I think that for it to be completely disregarded perpetuates mediocrity. I do not believe that any player will survive above the 400NL level without paying attention to the hablits of other players at the table. The idea that it is unimportant in lower stakes games is ridiculous, whether you can manage a meager profit without it or not.
Big bet poker is not about camping out for big hands and memorizing how to play QQ from EP. There is so much about the game that is completely missed in both the Hand Histories and the replies, and instead of players getting better, and understanding these concepts, they are forgetting the ideas that are the backbone to winning at NLHE.

We now have players who are crying that they can't make any money against players who are "camping", because their big hands don't get paid off, while I am averaging 20ptBBs/100hands taking advantage of these multi-table rocks.
If your profit comes from playing only the "top ten" hands in 25NL, and you are comfortable never moving past that, fine. I won't fault you.
If you think that concept, though profitable, has ANYTHING to do with what "POKER" IS, You will be sorely dissapointed when your bankroll leaks away to players who see how you are playing, while you just hope that you will get a big hand and have it paid off.

In conclusion, Poker is a complicated game, with many intricacies. The lack of attention to detail in regards to not only play, but the completeness of hand history posts seems to be resulting in the degradation of this forum as a whole.
Pay attention, you owe it not only to the people reading your posts, but you owe it to yourself.

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Greedo017

10-19-2005, 02:44 AM

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you had QK copyright

i betcha that i got something you ain't got, that's called courage, it don't come from no liquor bottle, it ain't scotch

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10-19-2005, 02:50 AM

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Demi, my love for you knows no bounds.

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10-19-2005, 06:41 AM

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Demi, my love for you knows no bounds.

SinkRox

10-19-2005, 05:58 PM

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sorry peeps i havnt posted any hh's here for a few months, guess you were used to my jippy hhs but times have changed.

demi i agree with what ur saying, personally im camping the low stakes and looking forward to moving up thru the levels where gaining and using various aresonal will be worthwhile and effective [moreso than at my micro stakes]

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Fnord

10-19-2005, 06:54 PM

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There is an edit post button...

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10-19-2005, 07:33 PM

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I have a passive read on this poster.

It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.

Fnord

10-19-2005, 07:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rondavu

I have a passive read on this poster.

weak/tight

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=20911

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SinkRox

10-19-2005, 10:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rondavu

I have a passive read on this poster.

weak/tight

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yeh, funny.

maybe your jelous of the discipline I have, i dunno.. so i dont play highly skilled LAG style, so what - Ive found a style that suits me and profits at my stakes.

I certainly don't think im 'weak'.. now im not one for stats but my AFs are flop -> river: 3.4, 2.6, 2.1 total of 2.86

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Fnord

10-19-2005, 10:51 PM

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I certainly don't think im 'weak'.. now im not one for stats but my AFs are flop -> river: 3.4, 2.6, 2.1 total of 2.86

AF numbers are funny. As you tighten up your AF tends to rise because you'll hit more flops. A 30%+ VP$IP player with that AF would certainly be betting a lot with air. I know from my limit experience that a loose player with a 1.5 AF can get downright tricky in a heads-up pot, because the loose/passives tend to run around a .5 AF. Also, one trait of weak play is folding when you really should continue with your hand. This behavior will make your AF rise. I guess what I'm getting at is AF is a single number that tries to represent a lot of different things.

If playing 15-20% of my hands and raising 8-10% is LAgg, then what do you call the guy with the 40/25 split?

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SinkRox

10-19-2005, 11:12 PM

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fair doo's bro, nice insight into the AF and how it can mean different things depending on the players game style

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CrunchyNuts

10-19-2005, 11:46 PM

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This post still sucks. Guess you didn't want any comments on the hand, eh?

Up my bankroll - buy Saints Row.

SinkRox

10-20-2005, 01:00 AM

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tbh i didnt really, i was thinking of sticking it in tales of poker cos the beauty flop is quite rare.

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Greedo017

10-20-2005, 03:50 AM

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what's so beautiful about Jack Ten Six two suited?

i betcha that i got something you ain't got, that's called courage, it don't come from no liquor bottle, it ain't scotch

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10-20-2005, 04:02 AM

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THIS POST SUCKS FIX IT, STILL.

Rondavu

10-20-2005, 01:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zangief

THIS POST SUCKS FIX IT, STILL.

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Fnord

10-20-2005, 05:40 PM

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This post will now forever suck, perhaps as an example of how bad it can get.

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