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Poetic justice comes up short...
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Fnord
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05-05-2004, 12:19 PM
Post subject: Poetic justice comes up short...
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Round 1
I was just picking on the blinds and look what happens...
Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) converter
CO ($85.30)
Fnord ($36.80)
SB ($25.40)
BB (MrsTilt) ($24.50)
UTG ($24)
UTG+1 ($8.95)
MP1 ($24.50)
MP2 ($82.15)
Preflop: Fnord is Button with 6s, 6c.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, CO folds, Fnord raises to $2, SB folds, BB (MrsTilt) calls $1.50, MP2 folds.
Flop: ($4.75) 8s, 8c, Jd (2 players)
MrsTilt checks, Fnord bets $3, MrsTilt calls $3.
Turn: ($10.75) 6d (2 players)
MrsTilt checks, Fnord bets $4, MrsTilt raises to $19.5 (All-In), Fnord calls $15.50.
River: ($49.75) 7d (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $49.75
Results in white below:
MrsTilt shows Qd Qh (two pair, queens and eights).
Fnord shows 6s 6c (full house, sixes full of eights).
Outcome: Fnord wins $49.75.
Round 2
I guess she wanted a piece of me? Easy laydown.
Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) converter
SB ($92.75)
Fnord ($59.60)
UTG ($24.65)
UTG+1 (MrsTilt) ($20.50)
MP1 ($15.15)
MP2 ($32.25)
MP3 (WeakTight) ($23.25)
CO ($28.55)
Button ($72.65)
Preflop: Fnord is BB with Qh, Qd.
UTG folds, UTG+1 (MrsTilt) calls $0.50, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 (WeakTight) raises to $2.25, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Fnord raises to $5, UTG+1 (MrsTilt) calls $4.50, MP3 (WeakTight) calls $2.75.
Flop: ($15.25) 3h, 5h, 8s (3 players)
Fnord checks, MrsTilt bets $14.5, WeakTight raises to $18.25 (All-In), Fnord folds, MrsTilt calls $1 (All-In).
Turn: ($49) Ah (2 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($49) 7c (2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $49
Results in white below:
MrsTilt shows 6s 6h (one pair, sixes).
WeakTight shows Ks Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: TightWeak wins $49.
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fishstick
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fnord playing pot limit? is that new?
nice play on both. you read mrs tilt perfectly.
a couple of "what if" questions:
round 1
- you raised on 66 to steal the blinds: what would you have done if mrs tilt reraised you another $2?
round 2
- what was the intent of raising weaktight pre flop? i'm usually leary of the weaktights, especially if the show any strength. and the above question again - your response if he would have reraised your pre-flop raise.
thanks for scenarios - it's helpful to my play.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by fishstick
fnord playing pot limit? is that new?
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Where the fish go, I follow.
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Originally Posted by fishstick
nice play on both. you read mrs tilt perfectly.
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Not really. I put her on an 8 or Jack on the first hand. On the second hand after cold calling both pre-flop raises I thought she might have AA, KK or AK.
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Originally Posted by fishstick
- you raised on 66 to steal the blinds: what would you have done if mrs tilt reraised you another $2?
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For only $2, call for the set. More than that, fold.
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Originally Posted by fishstick
- what was the intent of raising weaktight pre flop? i'm usually leary of the weaktights, especially if the show any strength. and the above question again - your response if he would have reraised your pre-flop raise.
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Information, to tell MrsTilt to get lost and perhaps to set up a flop bet by representing AA/KK from the start. If WeakTight goes over the top I'm mucking, if MrsTilt goes over the top and WeakTight folds I got a decision to make. Both calls gave me reason to be concerned, so I checked the flop and the resulting action made for a very easy laydown. I think MrsTilt saved me at least a flop bet, perhaps even from doubling up WeakTight. I guess you don't need to win a pot or even get favorable pot odds for a poor player to give you value.
I found it amuzing that after I busted her out with 66 against QQ, the hands were reversed a couple hands later. Too bad KK was around to take her money, I like busting people twice in a row.
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Aces
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What about if you were in WeakTight's shoes after the flop. Would you go all-in, discounting the possibility of a set or AQh? Guess it depends on your read of the player, and MrsTilt says it all
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Aces
What about if you were in WeakTight's shoes after the flop. Would you go all-in, discounting the possibility of a set or AQh? Guess it depends on your read of the player, and MrsTilt says it all 
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I would have avoided that mess in the first place by going over the top pre-flop. 20x the BB is nice take for KK if they fold, it saves me the anguish of a flopped Ace, I'm probably paying off AA anyway and if they call with anything else it's even more value.
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