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Silly String

11-03-2005, 06:43 PM Post subject: Pocket Rockets with action

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PokerStars: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25)
Table 'Epeios' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: hiss ($24.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Vinnyvibes ($20.95 in chips)
Seat 3: honesttheif ($8.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Cape Carrot ($23.10 in chips)
Seat 5: i winnnnnnn ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 6: DirtyEmpire ($8.15 in chips)
Seat 7: Silly String ($28.85 in chips)
Seat 8: inecita2004 ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 9: philnkaz ($10 in chips)
inecita2004: posts small blind $0.10
philnkaz: posts big blind $0.25
DirtyEmpire: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Silly String A

hiss: folds
Vinnyvibes: folds
honesttheif: calls $0.25
hiss leaves the table
Cape Carrot: raises $0.75 to $1
i winnnnnnn: folds
DirtyEmpire: calls $0.75
Silly String: raises $2 to $3
inecita2004: folds
philnkaz: folds
honesttheif: calls $2.75
Cape Carrot: calls $2
DirtyEmpire: calls $2
*** FLOP *** 9

philnkaz leaves the table
honesttheif: checks
Cape Carrot: bets $10
DirtyEmpire: calls $5.15 and is all-in
Silly String: ?

Come on guys? This was a tough decision for me. Call? Push? Fold?

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Lukie

11-03-2005, 10:22 PM

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Tough decision.. it looks like a very fishy game so I would have reraised a bit harder preflop.. at least to $4 since somebody had already called the original raise.

On the flop.. it's push/fold time. For me this decision really depends on table texture.. but there is a good chance you have the best hand and your hand isn't improving anytime soon. QT scares me here at NL25 in a 4 way flop. More then likely I probably push here, realizing that I'm <50% to win the hand. If you lose, rebuy. Calling is bad here.

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11-03-2005, 11:06 PM

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Like Lukie said. Push and rebuy if necessary.

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11-03-2005, 11:37 PM

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Cape-Parrot has AK, i can almost garuntee it, JJ would have check raised the flop KK would have pushed pre-flop, you reraise him and take his money, he is offering it to you.

There are not many players who will come out betting with trips, but AK after hitting ace or king will bet at least 8 of 10 times

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11-04-2005, 12:49 AM

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This is a fold. Somebody could very well have QJhearts or something like that, not to mention other hands that you need to be worried about, like sets.

Heck, somebody could have called with KJ here. With two face cards and the possibilities of straights and flushes out there, this is a fold.

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11-04-2005, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ensign_lee

I think it's an easy push after looking the hand more carefully. honest and dirty are both very short stacked, one is already all in on the flop, probably on a flush draw or maybe TP. The other probably folds behind you. It's a 2 flush board and a 3-straight board. If somebody has QT and they put in a sizeable portion of their stack on that preflop, pay it off, reload, and take their stack. Same with KJ.. and you have a lot of outs left.. any 9 or ace, running hearts, or a paired turn+river (non J or K). Qh Jh isn't really too much of a concern.. a push is still +EV.

I'm not a big supporter of playing for stacks with 1 pair type hands.. but I think this situation warrants it. Most likely scenario IMO is Cape has AK and dirty has a flush draw.

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11-04-2005, 02:29 AM

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It all depends on your read on caprcarrot, if he is a loose player than ensign_lee is right and me may have QJ of hearts or KJ.

If he is average he will fold those preflop, but will flat call with AK without position and do a pot sized bet after hitting the king. I think DirtyEmpire is the one fishing around either with QT, or some type of flush draw, you may lose that, but you can pick up a huge side pot against mr.AK who has ~100bb's.

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Silly String

11-04-2005, 01:25 PM

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Thanks for your responses. The table was not as loose or aggressive as this hand suggests. I am fairly new at the table(2+Orbits), but Carrot & honestthief are not noticeably Loose. I have got the feeling dirty is playing short-stack poker, i.e. push with any draw. I have not seen 4 or 5 players to a flop yet when raised, much less when re-raised preflop. BB cold calling $2.75 made me wonder.

Anyway, that is about as much of a read as I had.

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11-04-2005, 02:54 PM

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You should have raise more PF.

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11-04-2005, 04:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBobAA

You should have raise more PF.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukie

Push and rebuy if necessary

Tommydx

11-04-2005, 04:31 PM

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what actually happened?

Silly String

11-04-2005, 06:31 PM

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I folded. Sounds weak, but I wanted to know your opinions. I figured 4 to the flop with $3 pre-flop raise. There had to be a couple pocket pairs out there. KK, JJ, 99, KJ all freaked me out. KK probably would have pushed pre-flop though. I wasn't willing to play for stacks after only investing $3. Flop was just too ugly for me. I only felt I was beating was AK here. Too bad(sort of), I would have sucked out by catching an A on the turn. Oh well. Just wanted some feedback. Thanks all.

PokerStars: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25)
Table 'Epeios' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: hiss ($24.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Vinnyvibes ($20.95 in chips)
Seat 3: honesttheif ($8.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Cape Carrot ($23.10 in chips)
Seat 5: i winnnnnnn ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 6: DirtyEmpire ($8.15 in chips)
Seat 7: Silly String ($28.85 in chips)
Seat 8: inecita2004 ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 9: philnkaz ($10 in chips)
inecita2004: posts small blind $0.10
philnkaz: posts big blind $0.25
DirtyEmpire: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Silly String A

honesttheif: checks
Cape Carrot: bets $10
DirtyEmpire: calls $5.15 and is all-in
Silly String: folds
honesttheif: folds
*** TURN *** A

*** RIVER *** 6

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Cape Carrot: shows 9

(three of a kind, Nines)
DirtyEmpire: mucks hand
honesttheif said, "vnh"
Cape Carrot collected $21.55 from pot
DirtyEmpire leaves the table
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $22.65 | Rake $1.10
Board [9h Kh Jd As 6d]
Seat 1: hiss folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Vinnyvibes folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: honesttheif folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Cape Carrot showed 9

and won ($21.55) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 5: i winnnnnnn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: DirtyEmpire mucked Q

Seat 7: Silly String (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: inecita2004 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: philnkaz (big blind) folded before Flop

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11-04-2005, 06:36 PM

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I really wanted to see results for this one *sigh* as I was on the fence.

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Silly String

11-04-2005, 06:39 PM

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No more results oriented posts for you eh?

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