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Are Pocket Queens Overrated after all?

  
 
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Old 10-23-2005, 12:37 AM     Post subject: Are Pocket Queens Overrated after all? #1 (permalink)  
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Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 ($24)
UTG+2 ($23.25)
MP1 ($47.65)
MP2 ($8.55)
MP3 ($7.85)
CO ($11.80)
Button ($21.60)
Hero ($45.10)
BB ($23.65)
UTG ($20.83)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
4 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, 1 fold, CO raises to $1.25, Button raises to $4.85, Hero (poster) raises to $16.7, 1 fold, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button calls $16.75 (All-In), Hero calls $4.80.

Flop: ($45.45) 4, 6, K (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($45.45) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($45.45) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $45.45

Results in white below:
Hero has Qd Qh (one pair, queens).
Button has Ks Kh (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: Button wins $45. Hero wins $0.45.


Anyone else play this differently?
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Old 10-23-2005, 12:39 AM #2 (permalink)  
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3 players have shown pre-flop aggression in a game where re-raises are often at least AK/JJ. Without more information on their raising standards, QQ no good.
 
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Old 10-23-2005, 02:25 AM #3 (permalink)  
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easy fold preflop.
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Old 10-23-2005, 02:36 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I fold QQ preflop in that spot. With a bet and 2 raises in front of you QQ is behind quite a bit here.
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Old 10-23-2005, 03:28 AM     Post subject: Re: Are Pocket Queens Overrated after all? #5 (permalink)  
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Are Pocket Queens Overplayed after all?
i betcha that i got something you ain't got, that's called courage, it don't come from no liquor bottle, it ain't scotch
 
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Old 10-23-2005, 03:55 AM #6 (permalink)  
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3 players have shown pre-flop aggression in a game where re-raises are often at least AK/JJ. Without more information on their raising standards, QQ no good.
yay i think im on the right track afterall. I thought that before i read it
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:54 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Fold is the best option, but calling is still viable. If you hit the flop, you win a nice pot. If not you can fold.
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lol

Pretty ez laydown after button's raise... What did u think he had?
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:41 PM #9 (permalink)  
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This is obviously read-dependent (no very aggressive players involved) and assumes rational players, but I think once there is a raise, re-raise, and re-re-raise, QQ is usually beat.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...=178221#178221
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