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Old 04-17-2007, 08:26 AM     Post subject: pocket 10's, right line? #1 (permalink)  
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This is a first hand post for me on FTR had No real read on the guy.


Seat 1: m@rt!no ($1.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Danpil ($24.15 in chips)
Seat 3: palmer2k6 ($10.40 in chips)
Seat 4: miki1800 ($9.60 in chips)
Seat 5: scarefacerob ($6.80 in chips)
Seat 6: jason403 ($10 in chips)
Danpil: posts small blind $0.05
palmer2k6: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to palmer2k6 [Th Ts]
miki1800: raises $0.90 to $1
scarefacerob: folds
jason403: folds
m@rt!no: folds
Danpil: folds
palmer2k6: calls $0.90
*** FLOP *** [Tc As Ks]
palmer2k6: bets $1.90
miki1800: calls $1.90
*** TURN *** [Tc As Ks] [7s]
palmer2k6: bets $3
miki1800: calls $3
*** RIVER *** [Tc As Ks 7s] [6c]
palmer2k6: bets $4.50 and is all-in
miki1800: calls $3.70 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
palmer2k6: shows [Th Ts] (three of a kind, Tens)
miki1800: mucks hand
palmer2k6 collected $18.35 from pot
miki1800 leaves the table
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weezie
Old 04-17-2007, 08:39 AM #2 (permalink)  
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A 10xBB PF raise? Isn't that a little too much? I would probably rather raise on the flop because of the straight / flush possibilities
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:57 AM #3 (permalink)  
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not sure if 10xbb on low stakes being a good hand, is the way i look at it, (not sure if i should or not)...

the way i see it is if you hit a monster (AA, KK, AKs) you want to get money from it vs. some donk... therefore betting wayover the BB is not the best way to do this.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:30 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Look again folks, the Hero CALLED the 10xBB PF.

That said, the call PF is debatably borderline, especially heads up to the flop, OOP, without a read.

Having made it to that flop though... Pot is sitting at around $2 with a two tone flop. Hero's bet of 1.90 is called by a lot of donks at this level with any naked Ace, I like to see a little more here to really chase off the Flush draws, and make AK pay me. ~2.30 - 2.50 here. Nothing seriously wrong here though...

On the turn It's make it or break it time though. The (unlikely) flush draw completed, and Hero Bets Half the pot, which is also half of Opponents stack. I don't like this bet. It SCREAMS that you like your hand, BUT didn't like that the flush draw completed. I would've either checked or pushed here.

River is actually kind of meaningless with the useless 6c. The push decision should've been made on the turn. He's called you down so far, of course he'll stick the rest in.

Last but not least, please don't post the results, as they can skew our advice when we know what the outcome is. Donky OPP had AK, AQ, AJ, AT or a PP that he couldn't get rid of.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:42 AM #5 (permalink)  
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My bad, I got hero and opp confused. That said, I don't know what he would have raised that much PF with without raising on the flop, AQ maybe? I like your pot size flop bet but I would probably bet more on the turn if you don't have a read on the guy.
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:40 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Use a hand converter, like our very own: http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

If that one doesn't work (but it usually does) try this one: http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/

Also, don't post results. Cut off everything after the decision you're unsure of. If there are multiple decisions you're unsure of, start with the first one and post the next one after you get some replies.

Re: the actual hand. Fold pre-flop. Your opponent raised 10x the BB which means you need to flop a ten and get his whole stack more than one every ten times. You'll only flop a set 1 in 8.5 times, so you'll need to get his stack almost every time you flop one to make this a profitable call. Chances are you won't, so it isn't. Post-flop is fine, nh.
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:13 PM #7 (permalink)  
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