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Old 10-17-2007, 09:12 PM     Post subject: please review couple of BIG pots i played 1-2 nl on stars #1 (permalink)  
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Any comments on these hands would be appreciated I want to get some advice on how to handle big pots in the same scenario.
hand 1:
villain was multitabler and had stats: 20.5/15.8/7 (flop aggression factor) over 200 hands. was it instant fold to river push?

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BB ($287)
UTG ($310.20)
UTG+1 ($214)
MP1 ($198)
MP2 ($197)
CO ($211.85)
Button ($197)
Hero ($255.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 8.
UTG calls $2, 5 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($6) 7, 2, 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $5, BB folds, UTG raises to $20, Hero calls $15.


Turn: ($46) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $35, UTG calls $35.

River: ($116) K (2 players)
Hero bets $75, UTG raises to $253.2, Hero ?.


hand 2: villain was a tight pfr with stats: 10.7/8.9 over 57 hands.
It seemed like folding to his huge river bet was no-brainer though, so what do you folks think is the optimal line i should take on my part???

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MP2 ($125)
MP3 ($71.70)
CO ($185)
Button ($186.85)
SB ($141.45)
BB ($467.40)
UTG ($387.85)
Hero ($199)
MP1 ($159.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with , .
UTG raises to $8, Hero raises to $24, 7 folds, UTG calls $16.

Flop: ($51) , , (2 players)
UTG bets $22, Hero calls $22.

Turn: ($95) (2 players)
UTG bets $48, Hero calls $48.

River: ($191) (2 players)
UTG bets $293.85 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $-102.85

hand 3: villian had good stats (16.3/9.7/4) over 500 hands. Should i bet huge on the turn instead of pot control and instantly push over on the river without thinking twice?

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UTG ($206.80)
MP1 ($261.05)
MP2 ($101.30)
CO ($377.60)
Hero ($310.20)
SB ($176.60)
BB ($91.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
UTG calls $2, 3 folds, Hero raises to $7, 2 folds, UTG calls $5.

Flop: ($17) , , (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $14, UTG raises to $50, Hero calls $36.

Turn: ($117) (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($117) (2 players)
UTG bets $92, Hero calls $92.

Final Pot: $301

hand 4: The button was a huge donk calling down with weak pair, any drawing hand and some other crap. Also, another opponent had stats(16.2/9.5/2). So i decided to shove all-in on the turn to protect my big overpairs. Was it way too much to shove in such a big pot?

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BB ($98.75)
UTG ($213.75)
Hero ($191)
MP1 ($200)
MP2 ($197)
CO ($240.10)
Button ($99.80)
SB ($176.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with , .
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, MP1 calls $8, 1 fold, CO calls $8, Button calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($35) , , (4 players)
Hero bets $26, MP1 calls $26, CO folds, Button calls $26.

Turn: ($113) (3 players)
Hero bets $157 (All-In), MP1 calls $157, Button calls $65.80 (All-In).

River: ($310.40) (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $492.80
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:19 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Stop betting like a scared little girl.

Hand 1: Cry
Hand 2: I tell him thanks for the money and go all-in on the flop. Fail that, I would fold. Either way, I'm not playing a turn.
Hand 3: ALL-IN ALL-IN ALL-IN
Hand 4: Standard.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:44 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 : That's a snap call for me. villain is repping a set
Hand 2 : Good fold, I think possibly fold the turn.
Hand 3: I shove the river, I think villain has AK
Hand 4: Feels more like a sick spot to me. I'm not sure what to do.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:05 PM #4 (permalink)  
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yeah, i just learned to be a cowboy .
Surely hand 2 was too weak . When this guy donked into me on the flop, i should've put him on some range like 88-JJ, AKs. Against this range, my QQ has 63.594% pot equity till showdown. AA or KK wouldn't bet that weak,right?

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Hand 1: Cry
Hand 2: I tell him thanks for the money and go all-in on the flop. Fail that, I would fold. Either way, I'm not playing a turn.
Hand 3: ALL-IN ALL-IN ALL-IN
Hand 4: Standard.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:11 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 3: why did you not push? wtf? is it an aggressive call?
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:19 PM #6 (permalink)  
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actually, i didn't notice he limped into the pot UTG coz i thought he was in big blind as played.There's huge difference beween UTG and big blind calling & raising range considering that he had 9.4% pfr( it just made sense that 99,TT,AA,KK 55 all crushed KK and checkraised me on the flop if he called my raise from blinds). As played, i had sick feeling and wanted to call and reevaluate on the turn when i put him in big blind. Definitely, i should've bet huge on the turn denying his freaking drawing odds immediately.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:39 PM #7 (permalink)  
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hand 3: do you honestly think he had AK considering that he just limped in the pot UTG?
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Hand 1 : That's a snap call for me. villain is repping a set
Hand 2 : Good fold, I think possibly fold the turn.
Hand 3: I shove the river, I think villain has AK
Hand 4: Feels more like a sick spot to me. I'm not sure what to do.
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hand 3: do you honestly think he had AK considering that he just limped in the pot UTG?
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Hand 1 : That's a snap call for me. villain is repping a set
Hand 2 : Good fold, I think possibly fold the turn.
Hand 3: I shove the river, I think villain has AK
Hand 4: Feels more like a sick spot to me. I'm not sure what to do.
No, I probably got lost somewhere inbetween flipping back to the hand and the reply QJ seems much more likely now since it got posted.
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