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diabloiij

11-18-2005, 10:01 AM Post subject: Please help out a lost donkey

#1 (permalink)

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posts: 41

my main questions on this hand are
1. was my all-in call +EV?
2. Should I have folded on the flop?
3. Should I have folded on the turn?
4. Can someone please calculate my odds of winning this hand after the turn card?

thank you for guiding a lost donkey back to it's farm.

***** Hand History for Game 3054035874 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Fri Nov 18 04:16:21 EST 2005
Table Table 65670 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: hongya ( $22.30)
Seat 2: titness ( $15.57)
Seat 3: andvede ( $14)
Seat 4: klout ( $24.70)
Seat 5: ned5485 ( $23.40)
Seat 7: dragonplayo ( $20.15)
Seat 8: funboy305 ( $6.07)
Seat 9: cardinalwon ( $3.95)
Seat 10: shuxiong ( $5.40)
ned5485 posts small blind (0.10)
dragonplayo posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hongya [ Jc, Qc ]
cardinalwon calls (0.25)
shuxiong calls (0.25)
hongya calls (0.25)
titness folds.
andvede folds.
klout calls (0.25)
ned5485 calls (0.15)
dragonplayo checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c, 3d, 7c ]
ned5485 checks.
dragonplayo bets (1)
cardinalwon folds.
shuxiong folds.
hongya calls (1)
klout calls (1)
ned5485 calls (1)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
ned5485 checks.
dragonplayo bets (1)
hongya calls (1)
klout raises (2) to 2
ned5485 raises (5) to 5
dragonplayo folds.
hongya calls (4)
klout raises (21.45) to 23.45
klout is all-In.
ned5485 calls (17.15)
ned5485 is all-In.
hongya calls (16.05)
hongya is all-In.

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PokerPatNEU

11-18-2005, 02:09 PM

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Join Date: Mar 2005

Posts: 797

You can't calculate the odds of winning the hand without knowing what the other players hands are. Assuming all your outs to the strait and the flush are clean (no one has AcXc, for example) you have 9 clubs that could make you a flush, 3 8's that are not clubs, and 3 K's that are not clubs, for a total of 15 outs. There are 46 unknown cards in the deck, and 15 of them make your hand. Roughly 33% to make a flush or strait by the river. You need to be getting 2:1 or better pot odds to make this call. You are getting much better odds then that, if all your outs are clean.

Silly String

11-18-2005, 02:27 PM

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Location: KC, MO

Posts: 1,434

1) Yes but not by much, and only if all your outs are good. You are getting 2.5-1 on your money($16 to call, $40 in pot). If you have 15 outs giving you approx. 33% chance of hitting a winning out or 2 to 1 odds. 2.5 to 1 on your money and 2 to 1 odds = +EV.
I don't believe you can count all the flush outs with two other all-ins as someone is possibly holding a nut flush draw. I would discount your flush outs, maybe even by half giving you approx. 12 outs. Now your odds of winning would be 3 to 1. Then it is EV- to call the push. I don't call this personally.
2) With two overcards and a flush draw I'd say calling the flop is correct. At this point, you can figure approx. 15 outs(Any J, Q, or

). Again 2 to 1 odds and 2.5 to 1 on your money. Plus players in LP yet to act(pluses and minuses to that) that hopefully are passive/callers not agg/raisers. I would call the flop.
3) I fold to the all in as I addressed in question #1. Before the all-in calling on the turn is good. You are getting at least 3.5 to 1 on your money before the all-in. I think your odds to win are still 2 to 1 here.
4) I feel your odds are 2 to 1 to win the hand as I addressed in question #1. I give you approx. 12 outs after discounting for a counterfeited flush draw.

If your Q or J outs were good here, I am moving to Party tonight.

Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.

diabloiij

11-18-2005, 04:48 PM

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Posts: 41

Board: [ 9c 3d 7c Td 8d ]

klout balance $3.50, bet $24.70, collected $3.50, lost -$21.20 [ 6s 8s ]

ned5485 balance $0, lost $23.40 [ As Tc ]

i think u should move to partypoker. the A 10 hand is a joke.

currently playing micro limits on PokerStar

Miffed22001

11-18-2005, 04:56 PM

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Straight Flush

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Posts: 8,181

id call that turn

Silly String

11-18-2005, 06:24 PM

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Full House

Join Date: Jul 2005

Location: KC, MO

Posts: 1,434

That turn is what I call a gin card. It made everyone's hand look so pretty.

I can't believe I just re-deposited at PokerStars for the new bonus. I should have moved to PP. There is always next time.

Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.

BankItDrew

11-18-2005, 08:27 PM

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BankItDrew will become famous soon enough

Don't call any of the AI on the turn.

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