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Old 09-15-2007, 06:42 AM     Post subject: playing strong draws on the flop #1 (permalink)  
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 Ok. I raised this flop with the aim of getting it all-in cos I thought they would both come along for the ride. As it was, only one did...

Note that it was a limped pot so BB could have any two cards, also unlikely to be holding a pocket pair (read is that they raise any pocket pair, KK or 99 would likely be pushing pre-flop - this player has been prepared to get all-in on a regular basis)

1) would it be better to simply call the flop raise?
2) do I have odds to be calling the all-in? (i need to hit to win, I'm sure of that - I'm picking Kx, maybe two pairs)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($2.86)
UTG ($1.44)
Hero ($5.06)
UTG+2 ($1.04)
MP1 ($1.98)
MP2 ($4.94)
MP3 ($3.19)
CO ($2)
Button ($4.42)
SB ($5.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T, J. MP3 posts a blind of $0.04. CO posts a blind of $0.04.
UTG calls $0.04, Hero calls $0.04, 3 folds, MP3 (poster) checks, CO (poster) checks, Button calls $0.04, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.34) 4, K, 9 (7 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.12, UTG calls $0.12, Hero raises to $0.46, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $2.82 (All-In), UTG folds, Hero calls $2.36.
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 09-15-2007, 06:48 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 See it this way:

Your draw is strong in and of itself, yet the amount of players in the hand on the flop weaken it considerably, since more hands may outdraw you.
Also remember, its not OE, you got less outs to a made hand.

I think that investing little money into this pot may be the way to go. Try and minimize your possible losses here.



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