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Old 02-08-2008, 11:19 AM     Post subject: playing reverse implied odds hands weak as hell #1 (permalink)  
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 what do you think? any balance issues against better players? many players, good and bad, will throw money at this line with all sorts of crap, no? we also don't turn our hand face up. Who likes it and who doesn't? Why? When should we use it? Against who and why with how much behind?

Game #5334228243: Hold'em NL ($0.50/$1) - 2008/02/08 - 12:04:47 (UK)
Table "Salome" Seat 10 is the button.
Seat 1: atisas ($94.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Gezaen ($37.50 in chips)
Seat 3: soleada ($16.15 in chips)
Seat 4: grind ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: Ben100410 ($91 in chips)
Seat 6: babolat15 ($96.60 in chips)
Seat 7: PaulB75 ($101.83 in chips)
Seat 8: ernst5 ($42.55 in chips)
Seat 9: Oleg0706 ($36.06 in chips)
Seat 10: israfel ($148.89 in chips)
atisas: posts small blind $0.50
Gezaen: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Ben100410 [Ac Qh]
soleada: folds
Ben100410: calls $1
babolat15: folds
PaulB75: folds
ernst5: calls $1
Oleg0706: raises to $2.99
israfel: folds
atisas: folds
Gezaen: folds
Ben100410: calls $1.99
ernst5: calls $1.99
----- FLOP ----- [5s Js Qc]
Ben100410: checks
ernst5: checks
Oleg0706: bets $2
Ben100410: raises to $6
ernst5: folds
Oleg0706: calls $4
----- TURN ----- [5s Js Qc][9d]
Ben100410: checks
Oleg0706: checks
----- RIVER ----- [5s Js Qc 9d][5d]
Ben100410: bets $9
Oleg0706: calls $9
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:12 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I´d be scared of the times I catch TP OOP in a limped multiway with no initiative and the times I´m stupidly stacking off w/ TPTK vs AA/KK/QQ.

Don´t do it, ur hand is underrepped and when u wake up on later streets ur suddenly becomes overrepped, since limp/call is a small/mid pp so often
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Old 02-08-2008, 01:33 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I'm absolutely fine with it at the right time, and this hand looks like it was the right time.
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Old 02-08-2008, 02:09 PM #4 (permalink)  

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IMO, the river is pretty good for you, nice value bet.
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I'm gonna guess he had JJ or KK though?
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I'm gonna guess he had JJ or KK though?
JJ wouldnt raise the river?
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Old 02-08-2008, 04:23 PM #7 (permalink)  
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limping AQ first in is never good IMO
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:58 PM #8 (permalink)  
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limping AQ first in is never good IMO
I would have to say I agree with this. I wouldn't have thought that any edge you gain by being "tricky" outweighs the times you are losing medium sized pots because you never really knew where you stood.
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