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03-14-2008, 06:42 PM Post subject: playing OOP (5 hands)

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I've found myself flatly refusing to play OOP lately. I'm afraid I might be giving up some $ in some places.

Hand 1:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

UTG+1 ($4.90)
MP1 ($47.35)
MP2 ($14.65)
CO ($15)
Button ($23.90)
Hero ($36.60)
BB ($16.40)
UTG ($25.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
4 folds, CO (poster) checks, 2 folds, BB checks.

We're against an complete unknown in the CO(he's posting for his first hand) and only a few hands on the BB.
Is this too tight?

Hand 2:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

UTG+1 ($5.05)
MP1 ($25.25)
MP2 ($10.90)
CO ($21.70)
Button ($17.40)
Hero ($30.60)
BB ($15)
UTG ($30.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

.
UTG raises to $1.25, 6 folds, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($2.60)

(2 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $2.2, BB folds.

Final Pot: $2.60

Hand 3:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP ($4.85)
Button ($20)
Hero ($33.45)
BB ($3.70)
UTG ($14.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

.
2 folds, Button calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, Button calls $1.

Flop: ($2.75)

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1, Hero raises to $3, Button calls $2.

Turn: ($8.75)

(2 players)
Hero bets $6.75, Button calls $6.75.

River: ($22.25)

(2 players)
Hero bets $9, Button calls $9 (All-In).

Final Pot: $31.25
Blind defence+value pre-flop. I just tried to get value on the flop out of a c/r. My assumption was that he folds most of his range to a bet, but he bets a decent amount if I check. I sized the turn bet to get him AI on the river.

Hand 4:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

UTG ($26.25)
UTG+1 ($33.65)
MP1 ($19.85)
MP2 ($22.35)
CO ($27)
Button ($4.50)
SB ($5.25)
Hero ($26.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1)

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1, CO calls $1, SB folds, Hero raises to $4, UTG+1 calls $3, CO folds.

Turn: ($10)

(2 players)
Hero bets $6, UTG+1 raises to $29.4, Hero calls $16.60 (All-In).

River: ($55.20)

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $55.20
This c/r was just to take the hand down. Then on the turn I'm still OOP and a blank falls on a draw-heavy board. The AI blind-sided me a bit. Looking back, this is a clear fold on the turn, but should I have bet in the first place?

Hand 5:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP2 ($3.20)
CO ($30.90)
Button ($25.10)
SB ($34.55)
BB ($24.75)
UTG ($24.70)
UTG+1 ($24.90)
Hero ($27.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with

. CO posts a blind of $0.35.
UTG raises to $1, 3 folds, CO (poster) calls $0.75, 1 fold, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold.

Again, too tight?

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d0zer

03-14-2008, 07:07 PM

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Hand1: I probably raise. Nobody's declared strength yet and you've probably got the best hand.

Hand2: I fold there too unless it's a maniac raising UTG. I fear the UTG raise without good reason not to...

Hand5: I 3-bet or fold depending on villain. Calling a PFR from an UTG raiser with AQ is as bad or worse than calling a PFR with AK.

dev

03-14-2008, 08:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d0zer

Hand1: I probably raise. Nobody's declared strength yet and you've probably got the best hand.

It's the sticky situations after the flop that bother me, I'm c/fing most flops if I call, and c-betting OOP against unknowns is kinda rough too, but I'm probably doing that vs. just one caller 70+% of the time. Given the lack of anyong VP$IPing yet, this should be like a weird blind-stealing kinda raise I guess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by d0zer

Hand5: I 3-bet or fold depending on villain. Calling a PFR from an UTG raiser with AQ is as bad or worse than calling a PFR with AK.

With reads, yeah, but what about without reads? Are we losing value by not 3-betting an unknown V here at 25nl?

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03-14-2008, 08:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dev

Quote:

Originally Posted by d0zer

Hand1: I probably raise. Nobody's declared strength yet and you've probably got the best hand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by d0zer

Hand5: I 3-bet or fold depending on villain. Calling a PFR from an UTG raiser with AQ is as bad or worse than calling a PFR with AK.

With reads, yeah, but what about without reads? Are we losing value by not 3-betting an unknown V here at 25nl?

RE: hand1, most likely you just take it down right there, but a c-bet lead will probably take it down otherwise. I hate playing OOP also, but AJ is a strong hand in an effective 3-way vs 2 random hands.

hand5: I don't really know if we're losing value vs an unknown in that spot. I know I don't like a call there vs an unknown fullstack. I don't hate a fold, but I don't hate a 3-bet either. Kind of a tossup for me. Depends how saucy I'm feeling.

Unibomber14

03-14-2008, 10:54 PM

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H1: I'm definately raising here 99% of the time. Maybe I'm a little looser than others, but even if we narrow the btn to a normal btn calling range, we're way ahead of it. Definately ahead of ATC here. If I get a call, fine. I cbet like normal. If I get two calls, then I am probably willing to cbet into both of them on any uncoordinated flop.

H2: Seems nitty for the stakes, but I really have no suggestions that seem better than the fold. If he was short and pretty aggro, I would push.

H3: Standard line for me.

H4: Lead flop.

H5: I don't mind folding here. If there are TAGGs behind, I won't even open this. Soooooted I rr.

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