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Old 03-18-2005, 09:32 PM     Post subject: Playing the nut flush on the turn. #1 (permalink)  
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I was hoping to smooth call the turn, and beat weak on the river hoping he would come over the top of me with a straight. How would you play this?

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BB ($18.40)
UTG ($5.95)
UTG+1 ($23.30)
MP1 ($4.25)
MP2 ($19.40)
MP3 ($2.30)
CO ($10.05)
Button ($9.40)
Hero ($10.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A.
6 folds, Button calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.3, 1 fold, Button calls $0.20.

Flop: ($0.70) 8, 6, 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.4, Hero calls $0.40.

Turn: ($1.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.9, Hero calls $0.90.

River: ($3.30) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.5, Button calls $0.50.

Final Pot: $4.30
Main Pot: $4.30, between Button and Hero. > Pot won by Hero ($4.30).

Results in white below:
Hero has Kd Ad (flush, ace high).
Button has 9c Td (straight, ten high).
Outcome: Hero wins $4.30.
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Old 03-18-2005, 09:34 PM #2 (permalink)  
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River bet was horrible.

Move some money around.

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Old 03-19-2005, 06:43 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Consider raising the flop to disguise your flush. Bet half the pot on the river. Lots of people are calling anyways to try and 'put down the bluffer'

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Old 03-19-2005, 07:08 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Don't keep hoping for others to bet for you when you have the best hand, ESPECIALLY when you are first to act. As rilla said move some money around.
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Check-calling the flop was a mistake. Any decent player will suspect you have a flush draw with suited overcards when you check-call in that situation. Just pretend to have an overpair and make a standard bet on the flop and try to win the pot immediately. On the turn after a diamond falls is when you should check-call, followed by a medium-sized value bet on the river.
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Old 03-19-2005, 07:23 AM #6 (permalink)  
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AKs is a much better hand than 0.30 preflop (even from early POS)
Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
 
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Old 03-19-2005, 07:31 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Remember that for many of the fish out there the most natural button to press regardless of situation is CALL!
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AKs is a much better hand than 0.30 preflop (even from early POS)
I agree, but I was sitting in SB and everybody had folded except the button and I wanted a caller. So my 30 cent preflop raise got BB to fold and button to call, so isn't the isolatian what I am looking for with a preflop raise?
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Essentially, you raised him by .20. He'd probably have called .40, especially if that was around the neighborhood of your standard raise.

More aggression throughout the hand would have won you more money.

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Isolation with AK is fine but I would rather take a pot down now with AKs than guess what he's drawing to or already hit post flop. With a substandard raise you have virtually no info on your opp and you look weak. Look as strong as possible with AK to throw him out of the pot preflop.
Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
 
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Old 03-22-2005, 07:26 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Bet the flop, at some point in the hand I really want to push and let him call my obvious "bluff."
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