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Old 01-01-2006, 12:28 PM     Post subject: Playing a good hand cheaply #1 (permalink)  
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I was wondering how should one play a hand that is not great but you have a good shot at winning.

Example

Hero dealt :Kc: :Js:
Hero raise to 4x BB UTG
2 callers
Flop:
:Ks: :Qh:
Hero bets the pot
1 caller
Turn:

Hero bets pot again
Villain calls
River:

Hero bets pot again
Villian calls

Hero shows Kings
Villian shows Full House Sixes full of Kings

Is there a better way to play a hand like this?
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Old 01-01-2006, 12:32 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Fold pre-flop.

KJo is the kind of hand that's going to be on the losing end of big pots more often than not. Furthermore, being out of position will make it very difficult to keep the pot under control, get information and take free cards. Finally, I really really really want reads before I start gambling out with marginal holdings.
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Old 01-01-2006, 01:29 PM #3 (permalink)  
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If you had the sort of read that says he will play for stacks with a 6 kicker then good for you. I agree with Fnord though in that most of the time this hand sucks. You really need position and a read before you start playing it, or limp on a really passive table looking for a straight draw.
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Old 01-01-2006, 03:20 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 You dont really want to play out of position. Thats the key. You can play certain hands anywhere because their unlikely to be dominated. WIth others its not so straight forward. KJ even sOOted is one of those
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I had a similar hand in the last hour with KJs UTG but I limped ready to abandon it to a large raise. Long story short limped in, had the correct reads and my TP3K was good against K9o at SD. Without that read on villain I probably would have folded since TP3K is rarely good enough. I was looking for flush or straight draws on the flop not TP3K.

KJo, OTOH, I like seeing a flop cheaply from LP, and I only really feel comfortable with it once I make a straight.

Having said that K6 shouldn't have called your raise or stuck around after the flop (unless he had K6 and liked his implied odds but still...), and it doesn't actually matter in this instance whether you hold AKs or KQs since villain drew a freaking boat despite you trying to dissuade him. Villain should have put it all in on the river, though I 'd be grateful.
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