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Old 09-14-2005, 12:39 AM     Post subject: Played too passively? #1 (permalink)  
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I thought about check-raising the turn, but thought I might be burying myself if he flopped a set. Instead I opted just to call. Too weak, or smart?

PokerStars Game #2569135849: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/09/13 - 20:36:14 (ET)
Table 'Eumaios' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: Flopin_Nut$ ($56.45 in chips)
Seat 3: dsaxton ($219.45 in chips)
Seat 4: conorfd ($66 in chips)
Seat 5: SmokeyPete ($73.95 in chips)
Seat 7: IM A DONK ($198.20 in chips)
Seat 8: cangels17 ($383.75 in chips)
Seat 9: InsaneCane2 ($190.15 in chips)
InsaneCane2: posts small blind $1
Flopin_Nut$: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dsaxton [Ac Ks]
dsaxton: raises $6 to $8
conorfd: folds
SmokeyPete: folds
IM A DONK: folds
cangels17: calls $8
InsaneCane2: folds
Flopin_Nut$: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 2c Ah]
dsaxton: bets $12
cangels17: raises $12 to $24
dsaxton: calls $12
*** TURN *** [8d 2c Ah] [8s]
dsaxton: checks
cangels17: bets $50
dsaxton: calls $50
*** RIVER *** [8d 2c Ah 8s] [5h]
dsaxton: checks
cangels17: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dsaxton: shows [Ac Ks] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
cangels17: shows [As Qs] (two pair, Aces and Eights - lower kicker)
dsaxton collected $164 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $167 | Rake $3
Board [8d 2c Ah 8s 5h]
Seat 2: Flopin_Nut$ (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: dsaxton showed [Ac Ks] and won ($164) with two pair, Aces and Eights
Seat 4: conorfd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SmokeyPete folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: IM A DONK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: cangels17 (button) showed [As Qs] and lost with two pair, Aces and Eights
Seat 9: InsaneCane2 (small blind) folded before Flop
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Old 09-14-2005, 02:38 AM #2 (permalink)  
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looks fine to me against a normal person.
 
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:59 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Probe raise all day. His min raise on the flop reeked of TP looking for information.
It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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Old 09-14-2005, 04:13 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Probe raise all day. His min raise on the flop reeked of TP looking for information.
Raise when, and why?
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Old 09-14-2005, 05:49 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Rondavu I believe is stating to re-raise (correct me if I'm wrong) after your opponnents raise. I agree with his comment. If he has a real strong hand he'll probably raise 3x $8. His raise of $12 is showing that he's got top pair, not a lot of juice behind it and wants you gone for the least amount of money possible.
Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you ARE the sucker.
 
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Old 09-14-2005, 05:57 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Probe raise all day. His min raise on the flop reeked of TP looking for information.
Raise when, and why?
Drop the hammer immediately. You're ahead enough for it to be profitable after he showed min-reraise weakness.
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Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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Old 09-14-2005, 07:08 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Don't you guys see sets and two pair min raising this flop to juice the pot as often as you see TP probe bets?
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Old 09-14-2005, 08:35 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I was thinking the same thing, PokerPat.

I guess if he was really holding a set on that board, he'd probably smooth call, as there aren't many turn cards that hurt him and a min-raise is a red flag to me as well. Then again, a smooth call also has the same red flags on a draw-less board.
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