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lolzzz_321

12-05-2004, 01:34 PM Post subject: P\/\/|\|3|)

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#Game No : 1186574884
***** Hand History for Game 1186574884 *****
$25 NL Hold'em - Saturday, December 4, 19:39:34 EDT 2004
Table Table 15335 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 8: Triptanes ( $17.95 )
Seat 6: ArdEvans ( $7.85 )
Seat 1: becks05 ( $22.2 )
Seat 5: stevectaulbe ( $27.5 )
Triptanes posts small blind [$0.25].
becks05 posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Triptanes [ 2h 2d ]
stevectaulbe calls [$0.5].
ArdEvans folds.
Triptanes calls [$0.25].
becks05 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 5s, 9h ]
Triptanes checks.
becks05 bets [$2].
stevectaulbe folds.
Triptanes calls [$2].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
Triptanes bets [$3].
becks05 calls [$3].
** Dealing River ** [ 6s ]
Triptanes is all-In.
becks05 calls [$12.45].

Hrm, when you guys flop a set on a two to a flush board, do you bet it strong? Well after this hand Ithink am gonna just push it in when I flop a set on a suited board. Ne misplays here? Any guess on his cards? Yes on the river that is me frontin da flush. Should I have raised on the flop bet by becks, eh, I am tired and not thinking coherently, just blast me!

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a500lbgorilla

12-05-2004, 03:35 PM

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Reads?

Horrible river play.

Preflop and flop are fine.

Turn: Bet 4 bucks. Just put a little more pressure on their hand.

River: Horrible way to "front the flush." When I make a flush I don't push allin out of position. I also don't bet the pot on the flop with the flush draw but maybe I'm just old school.

You should have bet here again. If he's a solid player, he's calling with a worse hand/raising with a better one.

I can't tell you what he had becuase I don't know enough about him. Bust since he called the allin, I'm putting him on atleast the straight and you with a big frown on your face.

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LeFou

12-05-2004, 06:38 PM Post subject: Re: P\/\/|\|3|)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Triptanes

Ne misplays here? Any guess on his cards?

Agreed; river misplayed. You need a bet that non-flushes will fold to or call, but that flushes will raise. Quite a bit in there right now, but 1/2 your remaining stack is probably better.

My guess at his cards, mostly baed on the title of the post, is

3s4s

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12-05-2004, 08:53 PM

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Gotta try to get more chips in the center of the pot before the river. With that bet you're *almost* setting yourself to only get called by a better hand.

My guess is he hit his str8.

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FlyingSaucy

12-05-2004, 10:08 PM

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He's calling your bets as a dog with the flush draw. He hit the river. Take a note on that guy, hot damn!!

To elaborate. Unfortunately you'll (and I'll) run into these chasers all the time in the lower buy-ins. It's where we've got to be clean and efficient in taking them down. Don't pay off chasers.

lolzzz_321

12-05-2004, 10:50 PM

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Triptanes shows [ 2h, 2d ] three of a kind, twos.
becks05 shows [ 4c, 9d ] a straight, two to six.
becks05 wins $34.6 from the main pot with a straight, two to six.

YA I need to bet the earlier streets higher i believe

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12-07-2004, 03:20 PM

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I think this could have been played differently at several points. First of all, you're four handed and you've got a pair. It's a baby pair and not worht much post flop if you don't hit the set, but I think you've got to kick in a small raise to flush out the junk cards. The only one here I'd have on any decent cards might be steve as he thought his hand was worth calling the blind. Becks is getting a free look, and that makes this junk flop a little dangerous. Can't really have him on a pocket pair, but maybe small suited connectors, at best, or else he'd probably raise here.

2s, 5s, 9h.

You've got a slightly larger than pot sized bet here when becks shoots out at 2. Depending on your read here, I'd say you can put him off a higher set than you. That really only leaves 5 possibilities: Bluff, pair, two pair, flush draw, straight draw.

At any rate, I think at this point you've definitely got the best hand. Checking is not the right play here. Reraising is your best option. And I'm thinking kicking it up to six is the way to go. This is probably going to fold your draws, with the exception of the open ended straight and flush draw. It's certainly going to kill any bluffs, and probably knock off all but two pair. Two pair is the only legitimate hand that can call you here (if your opponent is logical). Remember, you didn't raise preflop, so he can't really have you on a set either.

I'd say the odds are about 80 percent that you take the pot with that bet. If you don't, you've got to proceed with caution from here on out.

The 3 on fourth street is definitely a bit scary. The second heart doesn't concern you much here, but the 3 for connecting the 2-3-4-5-6 straight should. I like your bet here,a dn the call indicates one of three things here: He's made the draw and is slowplaying a straight, he still likes his two pair, or he's getting what he considers a cheap draw. The pot odds don't really dictate that, but who says he can calculate pot odds?

When the six goes up, I'm seeing all kinds of warning bells here. You've got a likely flush, and a very dangerous straight possibility. Though it seems kind of cowardly, there's no way in hell I go all in here. This is what Sklansky would call a bet with no positive expectation. The only thing that can realistically call you here is a hand that can beat you, so you have nothing to gain. Your set is beat or it's not. I'd check here and hope to get the free showdown. If he bets, I'm making a small call, but probably folding anything that's wrecking my pot odds.

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