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Old 11-25-2006, 10:27 PM     Post subject: overpair against aggression on uncoordinated flop #1 (permalink)  
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Bodog 50$ fullring

hero is UTG with KK, villian is MP.

hero raises 4 blinds, UTG+1 calls, villian calls, everybody else folds.

flop is Q94 rainbow

hero pots it, UTG+1 folds, villian raises the amount hero bet, pot is now the same size as hero's stack, villian has hero covered.

what does hero do?
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:37 AM #2 (permalink)  
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any read on him? I will often check call here
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:55 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Sounds like you are playing a bit of a short stack, since he min(?) raised you and you don't have any more left behind. Easy call IMO.
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Old 11-26-2006, 04:12 AM #4 (permalink)  
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On Bodog I call all day every day here. Villian could easily be overvaluing AQ/KQ and put you on AK/JJ/TT.
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Old 11-26-2006, 07:46 AM #5 (permalink)  
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any read on him? I will often check call here
no specific read.

you saying you'd check the flop to him? that sounds tremendously weak unless villian is habitual bluffer.
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Old 11-26-2006, 07:50 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Sounds like you are playing a bit of a short stack, since he min(?) raised you and you don't have any more left behind. Easy call IMO.
yea, i bought in full but got reduced to about 60 blinds. upon his min raise pot was 27$ and my stack was 27$.

with that knowledge, you prefer to call instead of repop all in (or some other amount)? it seems that im either way ahead or way behind, and the majority of turn cards wont help me know which, so if i want to put more in the pot then it's probably gonna be all of it.
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On Bodog I call all day every day here. Villian could easily be overvaluing AQ/KQ and put you on AK/JJ/TT.
yeah, i definately saw that at 25$, but not so much at 50$, however, im still seeing it.

so if you just call and villian bets turn big do you lay down?


and i dont like a call here. best line seems to me to be a repop all in or fold.
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Old 11-26-2006, 09:41 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Sounds like you are playing a bit of a short stack, since he min(?) raised you and you don't have any more left behind. Easy call IMO.
yea, i bought in full but got reduced to about 60 blinds. upon his min raise pot was 27$ and my stack was 27$.

with that knowledge, you prefer to call instead of repop all in (or some other amount)? it seems that im either way ahead or way behind, and the majority of turn cards wont help me know which, so if i want to put more in the pot then it's probably gonna be all of it.
I think I misunderstood the action. So you have 60 BB's, and on the flop you bet 13BB, got raised to a total of 26BBs? And now you have 43BBs left facing a raise of 13BB and the pot now stands at ~52BBs? I guess in any case I am getting it all in with just over a half buy here.
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Old 11-27-2006, 04:12 AM #9 (permalink)  
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what I was saying is call flop re-raise
c/c turn or c/r turn
the reason i do not 3 bet is cause I already plan on going all in, but he may be bluffing and i am not ready to scare him away. If I win, I want all of it, not some of it, if I loose I am loosing all of it regardless
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Old 11-27-2006, 06:22 AM #10 (permalink)  
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what I was saying is call flop re-raise
c/c turn or c/r turn
the reason i do not 3 bet is cause I already plan on going all in, but he may be bluffing and i am not ready to scare him away. If I win, I want all of it, not some of it, if I loose I am loosing all of it regardless
are you planning to get it all in even if an ace or queen or even a king or eight come?

and how deep do you hafta be to lay this down in fear of a set, two pair, or aces?
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