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d0zer
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10-28-2007, 07:08 PM
Post subject: Overbetting top 2 pair?
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
saw flop|saw showdown
UTG ($64.50)
MP ($28.80)
CO ($98.70)
Button ($53.60)
SB ($24.95)
Hero ($58.55)
Preflop: Hero is BB with  ,  .
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises to $2.5, MP folds, CO calls $2, SB folds.
Flop: ($6)  ,  ,  (2 players)
Hero bets $4, CO calls $4.
Turn: ($14)  (2 players)
Hero bets $8, CO calls $8.
River: ($30)  (2 players)
Hero bets $18, CO raises to $38, Hero raises to $44.05, CO calls $6.05.
Final Pot: $118.10
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spoonitnow
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I think it's fine.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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d0zer
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I didn't think I was giving pot odds to chase a straight, but sure enough he was chasing with 98 of hearts. Should I have made pot sized bets instead of the 2/3ds I was going for?
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by d0zer
I didn't think I was giving pot odds to chase a straight, but sure enough he was chasing with 98 of hearts. Should I have made pot sized bets instead of the 2/3ds I was going for?
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My personal preference here is just under a full pot on the flop, 3/4th or so on the turn, then go from there on the river, but I don't have a particularly good reason why. The river was just a really shitty card and villain's hand was fairly disguised, nothing you can do about it.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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NLHE lahooozaher
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Originally Posted by d0zer
I didn't think I was giving pot odds to chase a straight, but sure enough he was chasing with 98 of hearts. Should I have made pot sized bets instead of the 2/3ds I was going for?
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Take into account implied odds when you're saying this. He called $8 to win an immediate $22 but in reality he called $8 to win that $22 plus the $44 left in your stack. It's going to be very hard (read: impossible) to 1)get this guy to fold his hand and 2)not have odds to draw against your hand.
I would've bet $5 on the flop and $11 on the turn and $22 on the river as played.
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bigspenda73
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No one ever checks these rivers?
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
No one ever checks these rivers?
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I considered same but I've got a tendency to valuebet more here.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Renton
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i see no reason to 3bet the river, i don't think you are ahead more than 50% of the time, but i think you are ahead enough to call the river raise getting like 4:1. Just save yourself the six bucks.
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bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by Renton
i see no reason to 3bet the river, i don't think you are ahead more than 50% of the time, but i think you are ahead enough to call the river raise getting like 4:1. Just save yourself the six bucks.
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That was my other thought too
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by Renton
i see no reason to 3bet the river, i don't think you are ahead more than 50% of the time, but i think you are ahead enough to call the river raise getting like 4:1. Just save yourself the six bucks.
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That was my other thought too |
lol me too but then i was like ah fuck it it's 6 bucks and didn't mention it for some reason
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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BankItDrew
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I would have played it the same except for a larger turn bet ($10 or so), and a call after the river raise.
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