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mcatdog
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01-20-2006, 07:56 PM
Post subject: Overbetting the pot: Fnord is a genius
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Thank you Fnord! The all-in river "bluff" worked very well for me last night, I got at least two really terrible calls.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
BB ($28.50)
Hero ($57.95)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , 5 . Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
BB calls $0.25, Hero (poster) checks.
Flop: ($1) 9 , 8 , 4 (2 players)
BB bets $1, Hero calls $1.
Turn: ($5) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero calls $2.
River: ($15) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $25, BB calls $25 (All-In).
Final Pot: $57
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Fnord
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All the credit belongs to flawless_victory of 2+2....
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vqc
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Originally Posted by Fnord
All the credit belongs to flawless_victory of 2+2....
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i learned this one from
either lorinda or lori.
one of those 2 whose names start with LORI
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by vqc
i learned this one from
either lorinda or lori.
one of those 2 whose names start with LORI
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Cash games?
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vqc
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i learned this one from
either lorinda or lori.
one of those 2 whose names start with LORI
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Cash games?
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SNG forum.
Its the "look at me im a donk so I overbet the river cuz im bluffing, call me call me call me" bet.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by vqc
SNG forum.
Its the "look at me im a donk so I overbet the river cuz im bluffing, call me call me call me" bet.
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Tourney poker post-flop has a fairly different flavor to it though...
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vqc
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by vqc
SNG forum.
Its the "look at me im a donk so I overbet the river cuz im bluffing, call me call me call me" bet.
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Tourney poker post-flop has a fairly different flavor to it though...
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once it gets to the river it shoudlnt make much of a difference.
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mcatdog
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In tournaments you usually don't get to the river without someone being pot committed already.
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natdang
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hahahaha that's great...
I've gotta try that sometime. I love $25 into a $15 pot.
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Originally Posted by natdang
I love $25 into a $15 pot.
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You're bluffing.
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Originally Posted by vqc
once it gets to the river it shoudlnt make much of a difference.
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I like over-betting flops and turns too.
HAMMER!
100NL
Lukie raises from the CO to $4. He's got a couple pretty cards or is just feeling frisky. Anyway, he plays a few more hands than I do.
I cold-donk it from the BN with a couple cards because I think I'm getting the best of it taking a flop with Lukie's hand.
Blinds chicken out.
Flop is Q J 7
Lukie Bets $5 because he still has 2 cards and I might feel like folding.
I raise to $30 because I don't feel like folding....
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Pelion
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by vqc
once it gets to the river it shoudlnt make much of a difference.
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I like over-betting flops and turns too.
HAMMER!
100NL
Lukie raises from the CO to $4. He's got a couple pretty cards or is just feeling frisky. Anyway, he plays a few more hands than I do.
I cold-donk it from the BN with a couple cards because I think I'm getting the best of it taking a flop with Lukie's hand.
Blinds chicken out.
Flop is Q  J  7
Lukie Bets $5 because he still has 2 cards and I might feel like folding.
I raise to $30 because I don't feel like folding....
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OMG OMG did he fold? Did he call? Did he have JJ?
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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jmontis
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usually good semi bluffs followed by a "bluff" make it look like a real bluff against any kind of thinking player
also going all-in on 599xx flops on the river when you hold pocket 5s isn't such a bad idea either, that 9 won't fold most of the time
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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I go to flop with JdTd (button) with other 4 opponents, flopped flushdraw with Ad on board, completed flush on turn. UTG bets 1/3 blocking bet, CO calls and I slam all-In (70BB to 30BB pot). UTG mucks instantly, CO thinks, thinks, thinks and....calls his entire stack - with TT pocket underpair!
Those lemmings will not call small v-bets but are suckers for big pushes and I'd like to know WHY do they call such a sick bets and fold to ordinary v-bets?
"You're bluffing buddy, CALL, oh shit you have a hand... REBUY!"
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"How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
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