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Old 12-21-2005, 12:22 AM     Post subject: OOOO KK #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #3388997028: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/12/20 - 18:57:36 (ET)
Table 'Dejanira III' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: stewcrew ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 2: clauw09 ($6.65 in chips)
Seat 3: Outkast116 ($21.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Muxxxy ($37.05 in chips)
Seat 5: rgwalk10 ($21.70 in chips)
Seat 6: majik4372 ($10 in chips)
Seat 7: spiderbob ($10 in chips)
Seat 8: NewmanIn05 ($21.60 in chips)
Seat 9: LOwZ ($25.15 in chips)
rgwalk10: posts small blind $0.10
majik4372: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Muxxxy [Kc Kd]
spiderbob: folds
NewmanIn05: folds
LOwZ: folds
stewcrew: raises $0.50 to $0.75
clauw09: folds
Outkast116: folds
Outkast116 leaves the table
Muxxxy: raises $2 to $2.75
rgwalk10: folds
majik4372: folds
stewcrew: raises $3.25 to $6
Muxxxy:...
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:25 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Calls.
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:29 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Option 1: all-in

Option 2: call and see a flop
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:49 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Call and look for a set/low card flop (as he could easily have AA/AK) or go all-in, both are fine at that level
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:40 AM #5 (permalink)  
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May be a leak but I'm never folding KK at a .1/.25 table.
 
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:04 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Call and see a flop.

On a non A flop:
he bets you push.
he pushes you fold?

On a A flop: (which you know it will be, right!?!)
re-evaluate, probably fold.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:17 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I always escalate this as far as it will go preflop. I posted about this in Strategies. People have differing opinions, but I don't think anybody was opposed to getting all your chips in preflop at 25NL.

Any reads? If he's playing like 15% or less flops, there is a better chance he holds the only hand that is ahead at this point. Even then people play AK and QQ this way at 25NL.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:07 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by iRICHeyes
Call and see a flop.

On a non A flop:
he bets you push.
he pushes you fold?

On a A flop: (which you know it will be, right!?!)
re-evaluate, probably fold.
On a low card flop you still expect him to play QQ/JJ strong you are just giving him less reason to get away from it. If hes pretty loose then i dont fold to a big bet here because there are too many hands he could be protecting with. If he has QQ/JJ he is shitting himself incase any K or A comes on the next 2 cards so hes going to bet strong.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:44 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 reraise to $12, if he pushes i geuss you fold this and assume AA, wouldnt be a surprise.
If he calls im pushing any non ace flop and hope hes not smart enough to trap you here with AA.
Imo, you have to consider that the only hand and opp pushes over you big rereraise is AA and not kk/QQ
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:59 PM #10 (permalink)  
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id say oen of two options, either push, or like the guy above said reraise to 12$ and if he pushed consider folding, depending on what kind of read you haev on this guy.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:53 PM #11 (permalink)  
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 Reraising to $12 would be an abysmal play. You would be putting in half your stack with KK then folding when you are getting about 3:1 preflop. If you come over the top in this situation, it has to be all-in. Otherwise, call. If I call here, I still pay off AA on a raggedy flop, but I'm hoping JJ/QQ/AK pays me off. My move here depends on my opponenets, and what I think they would do with QQ/AK type hands preflop.
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Old 12-22-2005, 01:14 AM #12 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by WildBobAA
May be a leak but I'm never folding KK at a .1/.25 table.
It is.
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Old 12-22-2005, 03:10 AM #13 (permalink)  
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I'd call and push on non A flop, but I dont think pushing all-in is that bad here either.
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