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LionsFan20
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02-08-2005, 12:44 PM
Post subject: This one's killing me
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: O-H... I-O
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Hey all, longtime reader of the site but first time poster. Thanks for the great reading.
I took a beat over the weekend that I'm still kicking myself for, wondering if i ever should have been in the hand in the first place, and i wanted to see what some of you thought about it. I don't have the hand history to include as it's on a different machine, but here it was.
PP $6+$1 MTT. @1800 registered, down to final 200 or so. I'd gotten caught stealing a couple of times and had kings lose to a suck out straight on the river, but had built my stack back up to about 6000. Not commanding in the tourney overall, but 2nd at my table. I'm in the SB with KQs, it's checked to me with one limper so I call. BB calls.
Flop comes QQ9, all black. BB is big stack at the table with about 9k. I've pressured him before and he's suspicious of me, but i've shown him enough cards that he thinks i only play with very good hands.
So with that flop, i come out and bet 1500. Hoping that's enough to scare him off if he's got two pair - it isn't. He raises me to 3000, limper folds. I'm pretty sure he's got cards, my read is that he's not a big bluffer. The only hands i'm scared of are 99, Q9, and AQ. 99 or AQ on the bb and he most likely would have raised me preflop - if he flopped a boat with Q9 he probably would have gone all in, so i figure he's on something like QJ, QT, or Q8 and i've got him out-kicked, so i re-raise all-in. Only three hands i'm scared of at this point, and if i double up i'm 12k in chips and about 5 or 6th in the tourney in chip stack.
It takes him about a half second to call me, and i see AQ. No king on the turn or the river to make my boat, so i'm gone.
Did i get over agressive with this hand or is it just one that happens sometimes and you just try to forget about it?
Thanks again for all of the great reading on the forum. I've been able to take quite a bit from different posters here and work some of their suggestions into my game. I'm about 55% ITM in $10+$1 SnG's at pp, started with a $50 deposit 13 months ago, br now almost $700. Went up and down a LOT at first, but really leveled off after reading some posts here. Starting to play some $20+$2 SnG's. Only played about 6 (1 1st, 1 2nd, and 2 3rd), but hope to make them my regular game in a few months.
Anyway, if you're a casual reader of the site and you're reading this post, I STRONGLY encourage you to spend some time going through the posts here. There are some folks on here who really know what they're talking about and their tips and experiences can really help your game. It worked for me.
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In order to win MTTs you've got to take risks. To me, flopping trip Q's with a K kicker isn't a HUGE risk to me. 99 beats you and AQ beats you, and that's it. If the dude has QJ, QT, even A9...he's probably going to raise you exactly how he did. IMO, you've got to push right here..."In order to live you must be willing to die."
I may be wrong, and others may disagree....but I wouldn't be able to lay this one down either.
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dalecooper
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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I think it was well-played and you were unlucky. That's all.
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r8ed
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Definitely worth the low risk to double up. If you wait for a more sure situation, you may last longer but when you get toward the later tables, your stack will be overwhelmed because those people took risks and won. Don't sweat the call.
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Sed
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Full House
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Wastin' away again in margaritaville....
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Trips on the flop with second best kicker is a hand hard to get away from... It'd take a super-rock pounding on me to get me off of that.
My only issue with the play is not raising pre-flop, it'd give you a better idea of where you are in the hand or even take the blinds/limps right there...
- sed
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SteveO
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 755
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you are sunk. tough way to go, but i make that play every day.
Even if you raise he either goes AI or calls so you don't have any info. That flop hit you very hard. Tough break.
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