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Old 07-30-2008, 01:40 PM     Post subject: One of the worst hands I've played in a while #1 (permalink)  
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UTG was loose passive 35/2, bb was nitty-aggro 11/1

My standard is to just 3 bet QQ and I think that's where this hand was screwed. When bb small 3 bet I was really tempted to make it a crazy raise but I was so confused that I just called and hoped the flop would just give me a Q. Allowing my hand to play itself!

On the flop, I really thought about bluff raising but they're prolly calling 1 with any ace, thus I'd have to 2 barrel. Just decided to again, nit it up and look for a Q.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
9 players
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Stacks:
UTG rhack ($34.70)
UTG+1 klou13 ($15.90)
MP1 Hero ($49.75)
MP2 Zwemvleugel ($53.75)
MP3 ben jac ($19.95)
CO black labby ($50.00)
BTN Shaka152 ($9.25)
SB Corocota2 ($97.25)
BB rokkenroll ($46.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 9 players) Hero is MP1
rhack raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, 5 folds, rokkenroll raises to $6, rhack calls $4, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($18.25, 3 players)
rokkenroll bets $2.50, rhack calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($25.75, 3 players)
rokkenroll checks, rhack bets $5, Hero folds, rokkenroll folds

Final Pot: $25.75

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Old 07-30-2008, 01:58 PM #2 (permalink)  
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i actually kinda like this...

I wouldn't 3bet this player with KK and I'm not kidding. On the flop I hate the idea of bluff raising really cos this hits their ranges so hard. I would expect AK/AA from rockenroll a lot and sometimes rhack is gonna show up with JJ. Basically it's not a good place to stack off with a bluff at all, and as you said the chances of them folding to one raise is very slim.

Tbh I'm probs going to be a ridic nit and fold the flop here. Although you're getting 9:1 on the call, you need 23:1 to look for a Q. That means we'd need to win an average of (14x2.5=)35 every time you hit, which seeing as you're frequently going to be set<set by AA is not going to happen. Also I don't think you're good here ever pretty much... As played turn fold is good.
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 Flatting the loose passive's UTG range with QQ and below is fine. I would raise KK/AA for value every time though. He'll call down with worse obv.

My standard after the squeeze is to just reraise and get it in. If I do choose to call, I probably play it the same.
 
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