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Old 05-16-2006, 01:39 AM     Post subject: One horrible hand #1 (permalink)  
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This is about the 30th hand I've been at this table. I haven't raised PF yet, only limped a couple of times with small PP. Table is quite tight with the only loose player the BB (43%/14%/2.5 over 42 hands).

3xBB raises was the standard raise I noted and it often got folded all around which is why I went with that instead of the standard 4x. I'm not sure 1BB would make a difference to the LAG here, but I'm interested to hear thoughts on that.

1) Do you drop this when you get 3-bet so large on the flop, or are you up against AK, AQ, or KQ enough to make this profitable? I hit raise before I punched in my raise amount (I didn't mean to minraise). If I raise to $3 and he 3-bets back-- is that enough to make you drop here then?
2) Is it correct to include JT in his range given his stats?
3) This doesn't smell like a diamond draw to me. Agree?
4) If not for the Q on the river I probably call down ($13.2 puts me all in); is that dumb?



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($46.44)
UTG+1 ($24.40)
MP1 ($24.75)
Hero ($23.95)
CO ($3.25)
Button ($19.55)
SB ($20.81)
BB ($42.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, A. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($1.60) Q, A, K (2 players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $1.5, BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.60) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero calls $5.

River: ($21.60) Q (2 players)
BB bets $13.2, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $34.80
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Old 05-16-2006, 02:40 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Raise more preflop.

As played, I'm pushing the turn here. I think he might have sucked out with AQ on the river. Nice muck.
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Old 05-16-2006, 02:47 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 1) 3-bet so large? It's a 3.50 raise into a 4.60 pot. No, I don't muck here unless I can really narrow down a range where I'm either crushed or am a little ahead. Which is rare.

2) yes, JT is most certainly in this guy's range.

3) depends on how agressive he is. I wouldn't discount a draw here, although it may be some kind of combo draw (pair of Q's + flush draw or gutshot + flush draw).

4) there shouldn't be betting left on the river


I hate your flop min-raise, but as played, I call the 3-bet.

I'd push the turn, and if he shows JT, so be it. The only other hand you're even remotely concerned about is QQ, and even if he wouldn't 3-bet it pre (he probably would), putting a 43% vpip guy on bottom set when you have top 2 is just silly.

But there's only $13 left and the pot is already $22 if you call, there's a LOT of cards you don't want to see (T, J, Q, diamond) which beat you or kill your action, and if he's drawing, you aren't winning money on 5th street..........
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:05 AM #4 (permalink)  
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If the flop is AdKdJh or AdKdTh, does that change your thinking? Bottom set bugged me a little, but I was more concerned about the straight.
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