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Old 07-15-2004, 10:43 PM     Post subject: this one baffled the whole table... #1 (permalink)  
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he hits bottom pair on the flop (playing 23 suited), with little chance to improve, and then pushes hard with a flush (and two overs to his pair) on the board?

i limped my AJ on the button only because i've gotten hurt with AJ, and didn't want to reopen betting.

i guess this is an example of playing by "feel", more than odds (ala rippy's recent post). clearly, i wasn't getting pot odds to call the flop bet, but:

- i'm drawing to the nut flush
- i'm pretty sure he just paired the board (just didn't think the 3), and even if he's on a flush draw to, mine's better
- based on his trying push me off of my draw, i'm pretty sure if i hit the flush, i can make a lot from it

so, the implied odds to me were quite good.

still, an odd hand...

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PokerStars Game #545563080: Tournament #2074005, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2004/07/15 -
02:09:32 (ET)
Table '2074005 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: bobrob55 (1470 in chips)
Seat 2: Jg375 (1870 in chips)
Seat 3: vovchik71 (1260 in chips)
Seat 4: fishstick666 (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: kbats (1570 in chips)
Seat 6: ThaGodFather (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Vineyard (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: gmanshade (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: E.O.D. (1360 in chips)
kbats: posts small blind 10
ThaGodFather: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to fishstick666 [Jd Ad]
Vineyard: folds
gmanshade: folds
E.O.D.: calls 20
bobrob55: calls 20
Jg375: folds
vovchik71: calls 20
fishstick666: calls 20
kbats: calls 10
ThaGodFather: checks
*** FLOP *** [3d 9h Qd]
kbats: checks
ThaGodFather: checks
E.O.D.: checks
bobrob55: checks
vovchik71: bets 20
fishstick666: calls 20
kbats: folds
ThaGodFather: folds
E.O.D.: raises 120 to 140
bobrob55: folds
vovchik71: folds
fishstick666: calls 120
*** TURN *** [3d 9h Qd] [Kd]
E.O.D.: bets 300
fishstick666: raises 500 to 800
E.O.D.: raises 400 to 1200 and is all-in
fishstick666: calls 400
*** RIVER *** [3d 9h Qd Kd] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
E.O.D.: shows [3h 2h] (a pair of Threes)
fishstick666: shows [Jd Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
fishstick666 collected 2820 from pot
Jg375 said, "..."
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2820 | Rake 0
Board [3d 9h Qd Kd 4c]
Seat 1: bobrob55 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Jg375 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: vovchik71 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: fishstick666 (button) showed [Jd Ad] and won (2820) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: kbats (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: ThaGodFather (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Vineyard folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: gmanshade folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: E.O.D. showed [3h 2h] and lost with a pair of Threes
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Old 07-15-2004, 10:47 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Woops... thought it was flush over flush. Disreguard.
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Old 07-15-2004, 10:53 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I assume you mean the river was a 4 of hearts? Or was this place just very nice to you, by crediting you with a 4 card flush?
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I assume you mean the river was a 4 of hearts? Or was this place just very nice to you, by crediting you with a 4 card flush?
i had the ace high diamond flush...

he had the awesome pair of 3's.
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Old 07-15-2004, 11:26 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Flop: stone cold bluffed on the flop, hoping to take it down right there.

Turn: He probably put you on AQ, and figured bluffing either the flush or the pair of Kings would get you to fold.

Reraise of your turn bet: stupid.
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Wow, I thought the 3 on the flop was a heart. ... He didn't even have the low flush draw I thought he had ...

That's horrible, but sadly I've seen players like that before. I was on a table the other day, and one guy has like $15 left. I bet $3 preflop with QQ and he calls. The flop is like a rainbow J54, and I bet another $6 or so, and he shoves all in on me and I call. The turn is a K and the river is a rag, and it shows he had Q7 ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNatural
Flop: stone cold bluffed on the flop, hoping to take it down right there.

Turn: He probably put you on AQ, and figured bluffing either the flush or the pair of Kings would get you to fold.

Reraise of your turn bet: stupid.
I've been as stupid as E.O.D. before. I bluff and I get called. I bluff again and I get called. And I'm embaressed to show my cards at the end. Yo hit it, TheNatural, when E.O.D. reraised all-in after the turn that was his stupid mistake. He should have known he would get called.
I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
 
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