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Old 06-16-2007, 08:39 PM     Post subject: OMG CAN I EVER SHOVE WITH ONE PAIR!! #1 (permalink)  
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howa bout here aginst a capable tag that i think is semibluffing a fl draw or AK 1/2 the time. WAS THIS BAD??


Hand #1167011506000129: Pebble Beach (6-Max) 11506
Seat 2: thetank (49.30 in chips)
Seat 5: zofcake111 (50.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Sportsbstn (80.50 in chips)
Seat 8: ballgamer (24.55 in chips)
Seat 9: Zenmonk (57.45 in chips)
Seat 10: ShakenBaked (70.60 in chips)
Sportsbstn: posts small blind $0.25
ballgamer: posts big blind $0.50
Dealt to ShakenBaked [: Jd: :As: ]
Zenmonk: raises to $2
ShakenBaked: raises to $5.50
thetank: folds
zofcake111: folds
Sportsbstn: folds
ballgamer: folds
Zenmonk: calls
*** FLOP *** [ :Jh:, , . ]
Zenmonk: checks
ShakenBaked: bets $12
Zenmonk: raises to $28
ShakenBaked: is all in
Zenmonk: is all in
ShakenBaked: returns uncalled bet $13.15
*** TURN *** [ . ]
*** RIVER *** [ 2. ]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ShakenBaked wins $112.65 with Two Pairs, Jacks and Sixes
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Old 06-16-2007, 08:48 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 06-17-2007, 03:07 AM #3 (permalink)  
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pf.....meh
flop....in a reraised pot, with 100bbs, idk, i guess igo broke. THis spot really sucks tho cause you see QQ-AA a lot of the time.

You typically shouldn't get in habit of 3betting tagswho raise utg with AJo, because its a hand that is usually dominated by a tags calling range. If you do raise, at least make it a proper 3x to 6, i make it 7 tho

IMO, pf, fold>call>raise, only because you have position
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Old 06-17-2007, 04:50 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Can some of the good players elaborate on whether they prefer threebetting something like 98s in position rather than AJ? I don't like AJ because it gets you in shitty spots like this.
 
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Old 06-17-2007, 04:52 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Old 06-17-2007, 05:03 AM #6 (permalink)  
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AJ is a lot worse than you expect. If you flop an A92 rainbow, you are behind AA,AK, AQ, A9,A2, 99, and 22. You also have so many tht will call with Ax that could put you behind any A that still pairs the turn and the river. On a non paired board with an A, just against a Ax hand, AJ is ranked 7th out of 13. You are beat by AA, AK, AQ, any four A's that pair the board. AJ sucks.
 
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:33 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I agree completly that Aj sucks but this hand wasnt babout the cards it was about position
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:52 PM #8 (permalink)  
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also this player was raiseing alot of KJ KQ A3s over the past 20 hands, he was "changing" gears from rock to lag.
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Old 06-17-2007, 02:11 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I usually fold preflop - given that the guy raised UTG I give him something like AT+, KQ, 88+ maybe even tighter. Not worth it with AJ really. Against a wider range 3 betting AJ is fine of course.

As played, with TPTK in a reraised pot we have to stack off here IMO.
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