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Old 11-20-2005, 06:35 AM     Post subject: Okay line with no reads? #1 (permalink)  
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Game #1101949417 - (blinds $0.50/$1) No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2005/11/20-01:23:54.5 (CST)
Table "Basseterre" (real money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: spank63 ($276.75 in chips)
Seat 2: SoulGroove ($100.75 in chips)
Seat 3: JiYoung ($113.00 in chips)
Seat 4: gopgap ($33.00 in chips)
Seat 5: Wolve ($187.25 in chips)
Seat 7: tallnywrtr ($112.25 in chips)
Seat 8: farmer t ($48.25 in chips)
Seat 9: fuzzybear11 ($105.00 in chips)
Seat 10: B_Rice56 ($130.00 in chips)
B_Rice56: Post Small Blind ($0.50)
spank63 : Post Big Blind ($1)
Dealt to B_Rice56 [ 7s ]
Dealt to B_Rice56 [ 4s ]
SoulGroove: Fold
JiYoung : Fold
gopgap : Call ($1)
Wolve : Fold
tallnywrtr: Fold
farmer t: Fold
fuzzybear11: Call ($1)
B_Rice56: Call ($0.50)
spank63 : Check
*** FLOP *** : [ Ts Qs 2s ]
B_Rice56: Bet ($3)
spank63 : Fold
gopgap : Fold
fuzzybear11: Raise ($6)
B_Rice56: Call ($3)
*** TURN *** : [ Ts Qs 2s ] [ Ac ]
B_Rice56: Check
fuzzybear11: Bet ($16)
B_Rice56: Call ($16)
*** RIVER *** : [ Ts Qs 2s Ac ] [ Kc ]
B_Rice56: Check
fuzzybear11: Bet ($30)
B_Rice56: Call ($30)
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Old 11-20-2005, 05:13 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Looks good.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:47 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Hm, I would personally raise again on the flop to see where I really stand
Considering he is still betting the turn/river means he is not afraid of any of the cards that have come he seems fearless, even trips would slow down on the river.
I think reraise on the flop would have better defined your hand and saved you some cash. ( im assuming you lost )
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:53 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I would get as much as I could in on the flop too. It's not like your hand is getting any better and it's hard to not fold the best hand if a 4rth flush card hits the board.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:59 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Fold preflop.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:48 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Raise the flop again and hope he pushes. I'm willing to pay off a higher flopped flush here because its so unlikely. The less streets you see before your moneys in the middle the better.
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:01 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Results: villian showed As9s for the nut flush

I still have mixed feelings about the way this hand played out. I think TalentedTom hit it right on the nose. As soon as the hand was over that's exactly what I was thinking. I think I should have either reraised on the flop, or folded the river. The board shows 4 to a straight, and villian doesn't seem bothered. Looking back, it seems the only hand villian could have that I beat is a straight, which I think is very very unlikely, seeing as villian either chops the pot or loses to a flush (if he does have a straight).


Consider this hypothetical situation on the flop:

B_Rice56: Bet ($3)
spank63 : Fold
gopgap : Fold
fuzzybear11: Raise ($6)
B_Rice56: Raise ($20)
fuzzybear11: Call ($14)

How do you play the turn out of position now? Like this maybe?

*** TURN *** : [ Ts Qs 2s ] [ Ac ]
B_Rice56: Bet ($30)
fuzzybear11: Call ($30)

What about the river?

*** RIVER *** : [ Ts Qs 2s Ac ] [ Kc ]
B_Rice56: ???

On the river the pot is roughly $105 and villian has about $45 behind. Any bet obviously commits me to the pot, but if check and villian pushes, is this an instacall? Maybe bet less on the turn so that we're not so pot-stuck on the river? Thoughts?
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:38 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnny_fish
Fold preflop.
Uh, hell no.

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Old 11-24-2005, 10:47 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Fold preflop.
Uh, hell no.
Low suited 2-gapper with only 2 limpers, don't see the implied odds here. A lot of potential to be a second best hand.. But maybe I'm too tight from SB (VP$P 18).
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:09 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 Completing the SB here with 74s is fine......

I would reraise that flop. The last thing you want to see on 4th or 5th is the 4th spade with your high spade only being a 7.

On the turn you have to lead out. Villain's play here can easily be the lone As. Forget the results, you let him see a cheap turn by just calling his min-raise and then checked the turn to him allowing him to get a free river if he chose to.

If you can't play this hand agressively like you should, you may want to just consider not completing with a hand like this.
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Old 11-24-2005, 02:13 PM #11 (permalink)  
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 raise the flop, push the turn if the four flush doesnt appear.
cry when beaten.
i think opps play is sloppy to raise the flop imo
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