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Pelion
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12-27-2005, 11:21 AM
Post subject: Ok Whats he got?
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This guy is very LAG but am i right in thinking A9 doesnt play like this.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
UTG+1 ($1.94)
MP1 ($1.58)
MP2 ($0.92)
MP3 ($7.29)
CO ($5.20)
Hero ($9.52)
SB ($1.77)
BB ($9.48)
UTG ($1.58)
Preflop: Hero is Button with T , T .
UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 calls $0.02, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.12, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls $0.10.
Flop: ($0.41) 9 , 2 , 4 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP3 bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.35, UTG folds, MP3 calls $0.25.
Turn: ($1.11) 2 (2 players)
MP3 bets $1.06, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $2.17
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Fnord
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12-27-2005, 03:49 PM
Post subject: Re: Ok Whats he got?
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No way I'm folding with that read + action.
Yes, A9 and a lot softer nines as well play like this.
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Rondavu
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ALL IN
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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Pelion
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To me it seemed as though he had a weak hand on the flop but he liked it on the turn. I thought he could have a 2. Also im losing to any overpair or set. I folded at the time but a few hands later i saw him lose half his stack overplaying middle pair in a pretty similar situation to this.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Fnord
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The turn bet says to me "I still have a piece of it and am not going away to your flop raise." A passive player might play a 2 like this, but the aggro nut-jobs generally have 2 pair here. The terrible LAggs slow down when they hit big because they don't understand that over-playing weaker holdings allows them to fast-play their best hands and expect to get paid off.
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Symbolic
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A4h plays this hand exactly the same way as well.
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Pelion
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Ok so if you had to stick a percentage to it, what sort of chance do you think im:
1) ahead to a worse made hand - need to value bet/raise
2) ahead to a draw - need to bet/raise
3) Behind - need to fold
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Fnord
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Not a fan of how you're approaching this problem.
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He's bet the scare card into you and put a lot behind in behind it. You've looked at this and though you're no good. Does he really call preflop with a x2? If he has quads or FH does he play it this fast?
My anser to most if not is all. Get it all in or at least find a reraise here of some sort. If he pushes i think you still have to call. These plays are the sort i make money on. I'm making this raie/push 80% of the time
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Pelion
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
Does he really call preflop with a x2
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It wouldnt surprise me to see A2s or something.
The last time i made this call against this type of player he showed Q6s on a flop of 6K6. I had AKs.
It worries me when these guys make such huge overbets.
I will start to call these though and see how it turns out.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Miffed22001
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Pelion
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
Does he really call preflop with a x2
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It wouldnt surprise me to see A2s or something.
The last time i made this call against this type of player he showed Q6s on a flop of 6K6. I had AKs.
It worries me when these guys make such huge overbets.
I will start to call these though and see how it turns out.
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i can understand the need to find a fold here.
I just think you might find yourself good more often than not to make showdown +ev
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Fnord
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Don't fold good hands to this guy. Just don't.
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